Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by hugok » 11. Aug 2022, 17:56

missTell wrote:
11. Aug 2022, 15:10

5. Xfce has a problem with handling open windows on the panel.

Maybe one should consider adding one more extension, for those who might need it.

If someone has many open windows, they won't fit on the taskbar.

If one groups them, it's hard to say what's what, as there is no window preview, like in all modern OS.

Gnome extension (copycat of Windows, of course, however, not as good though) as example:

https://ibb.co/M1bkKcd
https://ibb.co/Y45bwBP

It's pretty easy to find what one needs.

Now compare it to that Xfce mess.

https://ibb.co/tbhWMTF

Note that the number of opened windows is the same.

There is one extension, "Docklike Taskbar", which tries to overcome that productivity issue of Xfce.

https://ibb.co/VpyBm7J
https://ibb.co/k6HHLPT

https://github.com/hugok79/xfce4-docklike-plugin

It isn't really on-pair with Gnome / Windows, but also much better than nothing.
MX Linux uses "Docklike Taskbar" but I don't know how stable it is or who is actually developing it:

https://github.com/nsz32/docklike-plugin
https://github.com/nsz32/docklike-plugin/tree/master/po

https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/x ... /issues/30
https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/x ... ike-plugin

https://github.com/davekeogh/xfce4-docklike-plugin
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by missTell » 11. Aug 2022, 19:20

hugok wrote:
11. Aug 2022, 17:56
MX Linux uses "Docklike Taskbar" but I don't know how stable it is or who is actually developing it [...]
Follow the White Rabbit!

https://ibb.co/bgpcPpt --> https://ibb.co/vLhJvZg --> https://ibb.co/483nWdz

How stable ... better ask "how broken" ... as Xfce, or as the biggest part of all Open Source itself.

But the point is: sometimes can be useful -- if properly configured AND if you know its limitations.

https://ibb.co/xfs0qWc

Every dot on the icons on the panel is one instance ...

But now, watch the 'who cares about 1 Px' issue:

https://ibb.co/x6y89cG

Watch the taskbar very carefully (the clock area). Now, with so many open instances, try to open one more and make a screenshot:

https://ibb.co/CssWsTp

So, how late it is?

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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by hugok » 11. Aug 2022, 19:51

I just fork the projects for translation. I don't do code.
Most of the software doesn't use translation platforms, only with "Pull Requests"

But now talking about the panel... I don't usually have so many tabs or instances open but the option to just leave the icons instead of the tabs with the label is an option and you can do that in the settings.

And yes, all the open souce in kind of broken... I myself, who for example am the coordinator and translator of the GNOME Desktop Environment (Portuguese Team), don't use it because it is too confusing. I still prefer Xfce.
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by SalixManiac » 11. Aug 2022, 20:35

by babam
I want my laptop with Iris Xe graphics (i5-1135G7) to be able to use hardware acceleration for video encoding/decoding.
Sadly Intel remove VAAPI after gimini lake.
Under Salix 15.0 you can install Intel Media Driver 2021Q4 Release - 22.1.1 (this version fixes many bugs) without too much pain but there will be no Slackware security update on this package, but if you want to do this properly you will have to recompile ffmpeg avidemux vlc mpv smplayer (firefox-91 i don't know)....
https://github.com/intel/media-driver/r ... dia-22.1.1
but it may still be too early because I don't see any command in https://mpv.io/manual/stable/ to activate Intel-Media, and everyone is reporting bugs on the web.
try:
$mpv --hwdec=auto /home/video.mp4
you must see:
Using hardware decoding (vaapi) <-----your hardware
Keep us informed, you are our pioneer :D
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by gapan » 12. Aug 2022, 00:11

babam wrote:
11. Aug 2022, 07:00
Can you please update the intel-media-driver to a newer version, 21.3.5 is a bit out of date.

Thanks.
Well, I tried...

Code: Select all

[ 95%] Building CXX object media_driver/CMakeFiles/iHD_drv_video_CODEC.dir/__/media_softlet/agnostic/common/codec/hal/enc/shared/scalability/encode_scalability_singlepipe.cpp.o
[ 95%] Building CXX object media_driver/CMakeFiles/iHD_drv_video_CODEC.dir/__/media_softlet/agnostic/common/codec/hal/enc/shared/statusreport/encode_status_report.cpp.o
[ 95%] Building CXX object media_driver/CMakeFiles/iHD_drv_video_CODEC.dir/__/media_softlet/agnostic/common/codec/hal/enc/shared/mmc/encode_mem_compression.cpp.o
[ 95%] Building CXX object media_driver/CMakeFiles/iHD_drv_video_CODEC.dir/__/media_softlet/agnostic/common/codec/hal/shared/codec_hw_next.cpp.o
[ 95%] Built target iHD_drv_video_CODEC
make: *** [Makefile:156: all] Error 2
build() failed.
Apparently it needs a newer libva than the one we have in libva. I'll try with 22.1.1 which is probably the latest that can be built in 15.0
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by simone » 12. Aug 2022, 05:58

Hello, I point out that in my Lenovo laptop I installed the rc2 version, but it is a problem that persists since the Alpha version: on reboot everything works, except that it does not have the options to suspend and hibernate. I tried to reinstall upower but nothing to do. From the terminal if I do loginctl suspend nothing happens... Thanks
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by babam » 12. Aug 2022, 06:14

gapan wrote:
12. Aug 2022, 00:11


Apparently it needs a newer libva than the one we have in libva. I'll try with 22.1.1 which is probably the latest that can be built in 15.0
22.3.0 is the last version that requires libva-2.13

https://github.com/intel/media-driver/a ... 3.0.tar.gz

https://github.com/intel/gmmlib/archive ... 1.1.tar.gz

It should add /etc/profile.d/intel-media.sh

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#!/bin/sh

export LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=iHD
Thanks.
Sorry, my English is bad.

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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by babam » 12. Aug 2022, 06:24

SalixManiac wrote:
11. Aug 2022, 20:35

Sadly Intel remove VAAPI after gimini lake.
Under Salix 15.0 you can install Intel Media Driver 2021Q4 Release - 22.1.1 (this version fixes many bugs) without too much pain but there will be no Slackware security update on this package, but if you want to do this properly you will have to recompile ffmpeg avidemux vlc mpv smplayer (firefox-91 i don't know)....
https://github.com/intel/media-driver/r ... dia-22.1.1
but it may still be too early because I don't see any command in https://mpv.io/manual/stable/ to activate Intel-Media, and everyone is reporting bugs on the web.
try:
$mpv --hwdec=auto /home/video.mp4
you must see:
Using hardware decoding (vaapi) <-----your hardware
Keep us informed, you are our pioneer :D
To use intel-media-driver (iHD) you have to set the environment.

It should add /etc/profile.d/intel-media.sh

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh

export LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=iHD
Sorry, my English is bad.

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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by missTell » 12. Aug 2022, 06:43

hugok wrote:
11. Aug 2022, 14:10
Thunar file manager having different "colors" icons:

https://ibb.co/WGcPGHz
There is no issue with "Thunar file manager having different "colors" icons.

This because there is a System File Manager (any file manager found on the system, some cryptic command) icon, and then there is a Thunar (org.xfce.thunar, previously thunar) icon.

https://ibb.co/F8J2GBL

The actual issue which is present in this crippled icon set is that the SHAPE of the icon has a wrong form since it comes from another icon set. There are few other folder icons in that wrong form present on the system.


However, we have other icon problems, but I really won't bother explaining it again.
Just a couple of days ago (8. Aug 2022, 19:44) I brought already a screenshot of it. :(

https://ibb.co/5vsnsWx
https://ibb.co/mv7zDj8


Addendum

https://ibb.co/CKy6syr
https://ibb.co/3MJ99dT

Unmodified original, proper "All Applications" icon in Start Menu.
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0RC2

Post by simone » 12. Aug 2022, 08:18

simone wrote:
12. Aug 2022, 05:58
Hello, I point out that in my Lenovo laptop I installed the rc2 version, but it is a problem that persists since the Alpha version: on reboot everything works, except that it does not have the options to suspend and hibernate. I tried to reinstall upower but nothing to do. From the terminal if I do loginctl suspend nothing happens... Thanks
Update: by deleting the Salix-polkit-settings package the suspension icons reappear and work normally!
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