MATE Desktop Environment packages

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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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caitlyn wrote:
Andyun wrote:I have not found the switch keyboard layout applet for mate panel.
I don't see one for the panel either. You can change keyboard layout from the menu: System -> Administration -> Keyboard
Menu System --> Preferences --> Keyboard.
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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Look again, andyun. There are keymap tools in Administration as well.
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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caitlyn wrote:Look again, andyun. There are keymap tools in Administration as well.
Yes, the one in the Administration menu is for setting them up system-wide. The one in the Preferences menu is setting them up for the running user only.
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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And gedi.. I mean Pluma?
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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NicePics13 wrote:And gedi.. I mean Pluma?
I didn't build it. And I didn't build Eye of Mate either. I think there are better alternatives out there that have no ties to a specific desktop. For example, leafpad is a better simple text editor than pluma, geany is a better code editor than pluma and viewnior is a better image viewer than Eye of Mate, in my opinion.
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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gapan wrote:You're missing a lot of important packages. Of the ones in the /mate directory in our repos, you can probably only leave out mate-backgrounds, mate-common, mate-conf-editor, mate-doc-utils, mate-file-archiver, mate-file-manager-open-terminal, mate-document-viewer, mate-icon-theme, mate-netspeed and mate-sensors-applet. You'll be missing some functionality without these, but everything else has definitely got to be installed.
May you correct the dependencies?

The programs Atril (Evince), Engrampa (File-Roller), mate-conf-editor work well.

The following programs of mate-utils work well too (I have dismissed dependencies arbitrarily)

mate-dictionary (works)
mate-disk-usage-analyzer (edit: works)
mate-screenshot (works, despite not recognizing other window managers, just like Xfce doesn't)
mate-search-tool (works)
mate-system-log (works) Gui for viewing logfiles

I believe that it would be very good to split these packages, if possible.

Not everyone would want to install
  • mate-dictionary (e.g. using Xfce4 Dictionary)
  • mate-disk-usage-analyzer (Baobab)
  • mate-screenshot
  • mate-search-tool (e.g. using Catfish or PManFM)
  • MATE (looking at Baobab and the Log Viewer of MATE)
Installed packages:

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$ slapt-get --list | grep mate | grep inst=yes
libmatekeyring-1.2.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: libmatekeyring (a library to interact with mate-keyring)
mate-common-1.2.1-noarch-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-common (common scripts and macros to develop with MATE)
mate-conf-1.2.1-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-conf (the MATE Configuration database system)
mate-conf-editor-1.2.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-conf-editor (GTK+2 Editor for MATEconf)
mate-corba-1.2.1-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-corba (a high-performance CORBA)
mate-desktop-1.2.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-desktop (The MATE Desktop environment)
mate-doc-utils-1.2.1-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-doc-utils (documentation utilities for the Mate project)
mate-document-viewer-1.2.1-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-document-viewer (simply a document viewer)
mate-file-archiver-20120330-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-file-archver (an archive manager for MATE)
mate-file-manager-1.2.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-file-manager (file manager and graphical shell for MATE)
mate-file-manager-open-terminal-1.2.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-file-manager-open-terminal (Caja plugin for opening terminals)
mate-icon-theme-1.2.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-icon-theme (The MATE Icon Theme)
mate-media-1.2.1-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-media (MATE media utilities)
mate-themes-20120329-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-themes (Themes for the MATE desktop)
mate-utils-1.2.0-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: mate-utils (MATE desktop utilities)
And for mate-disk-usage-analyzer (Baobab)

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libgtop-2.28.4-i486-1gv [inst=yes]: libgtop (System Information Library)
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mate-icon-theme vs gnome-icon-theme

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I believe that the MATE icon theme is exactly the same icon set as GNOME icon theme.

Please correct the index.theme files of the mate-themes package.
Instead of: Inherits=mate
Replace to: Inherits=mate,gnome

Try with the .icons folder in your home directory

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[~]$ mkdir .icons/Fog-two
[~]$ cd .icons/Fog-two/
[Fog-two]$ ln -s /usr/share/icons/Fog/16x16/ 16x16
[Fog-two]$ ln -s /usr/share/icons/Fog/22x22/ 22x22
[Fog-two]$ ln -s /usr/share/icons/Fog/24x24/ 24x24
[Fog-two]$ ln -s /usr/share/icons/Fog/32x32/ 32x32
[Fog-two]$ ln -s /usr/share/icons/Fog/48x48/ 48x48
[Fog-two]$ ln -s /usr/share/icons/Fog/256x256/ 256x256
[Fog-two]$ cp /usr/share/icons/Fog/index.theme index.theme 
  • Actions:
  • Add ",gnome" to: Inherits=mate
    Like this: Inherits=mate,gnome
  • Rename: Name=Fog to Name=Fog2

Otherwise it is a waste of disk space (40MB instead of 30MB) and bandwidth (16MB instead of 8MB).
Alternatively, you can merge these packages into one.

I wonder why the MATE developers have done it like so.
I will ask the MATE developers about it.
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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zAchAry wrote:May you correct the dependencies?
Dependencies of what? And correct to what? They are already correct as far as I can tell.
zAchAry wrote:The programs Atril (Evince), Engrampa (File-Roller), mate-conf-editor work well.
Of course they do.
zAchAry wrote:(I have dismissed dependencies arbitrarily)
You shouldn't be surprised if stuff don't work then.
zAchAry wrote:I believe that it would be very good to split these packages, if possible.
Not unless the mate devs split them in separate packages. And I don't see the reason.
zAchAry wrote:Not everyone would want to install
  • mate-dictionary (e.g. using Xfce4 Dictionary)
  • mate-disk-usage-analyzer (Baobab)
  • mate-screenshot
  • mate-search-tool (e.g. using Catfish or PManFM)
  • MATE (looking at Baobab and the Log Viewer of MATE)
So don't install the mate-utils package. But don't complain that you're missing functionality because you're missing the mate-utils package.
zAchAry wrote:I believe that the MATE icon theme is exactly the same icon set as GNOME icon theme.

Please correct the index.theme files of the mate-themes package.
Instead of: Inherits=mate
Replace to: Inherits=mate,gnome
Maybe. I'm not sure everything is the same.
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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gapan wrote:
zAchAry wrote:May you correct the dependencies?
Dependencies of what? And correct to what? They are already correct as far as I can tell.
zAchAry wrote:The programs Atril (Evince), Engrampa (File-Roller), mate-conf-editor work well.
Of course they do.
zAchAry wrote:(I have dismissed dependencies arbitrarily)
You shouldn't be surprised if stuff don't work then.
Until this point, I have installed everything without manipulations by me, and Caja does not work 100% properly.

gapan wrote:
zAchAry wrote:I believe that the MATE icon theme is exactly the same icon set as GNOME icon theme.

Please correct the index.theme files of the mate-themes package.
Instead of: Inherits=mate
Replace to: Inherits=mate,gnome
Maybe. I'm not sure everything is the same.
Either way, ",gnome" should be added to line number 4, if we would like users to enjoy the Fog and Quid icon themes without installing the MATE icon theme.
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Re: MATE Desktop Environment packages

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zAchAry wrote:Until this point, I have installed everything without manipulations by me, and Caja does not work 100% properly.
What is it that it doesn't work?

zAchAry wrote:Either way, ",gnome" should be added to line number 4, if we would like users to enjoy the Fog and Quid icon themes.
Not necessarily. The Fog and Quid icon themes work just fine if you have the mate-icon-theme installed.
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