Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by JRD » 26. Aug 2012, 11:57

Only for packagers. It could be that some software depends on the kernel, so this is why I recommand upgrade it...but only for packagers. And not need to remove the excludes, you could install them with slapt-get
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by trickyhero » 27. Aug 2012, 01:44

I don't know if you already know this but unetbootin dosn't work with this iso. Also dd didn't work on a usb I tried: it said it was "missing isobin or corrupted". I installed it on a computer with a CD drive and it worked though :)

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by mimosa » 27. Aug 2012, 02:01

Thanks JRD, I'll bear that in mind. I hope to do some packaging this coming week (after becoming distracted with dependency ... purgatory ;)).

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by Tim CowChip » 27. Aug 2012, 04:25

JRD wrote:And not need to remove the excludes, you could install them with slapt-get
Removing the excludes is how I will be keeping informed of new kernel releases via the salix-update-notifier.
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by laprjns » 27. Aug 2012, 09:56

Tim CowChip wrote:Removing the excludes is how I will be keeping informed of new kernel releases via the salix-update-notifier.
Actually that will not keep you informed, it will just update all the packages, possibly without you noticing it. Keeping the exclusions will inform you that there are packages considered to be critical for update and lets you decide if they should be or not. Here's an example after doing a slapt-get --upg:

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root[rich]# slapt-get --upg
Reading Package Lists...Done
The following packages have been EXCLUDED:
  aaa_base kernel-headers kernel-huge kernel-modules kernel-source udev 
0 upgraded, 0 reinstalled, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 6 not upgraded.
This tells me that there are six packages available that have been excluded from automatic upgrades ( presumably because upgrading them could have detrimental effects on my system). Now I can make a considered decision to upgrade these or not. In this case I will update 5 of the packages:

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root[rich]# slapt-get -i kernel-headers kernel-huge kernel-modules kernel-source udev
Reading Package Lists...Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kernel-headers kernel-huge kernel-modules kernel-source udev 
5 upgraded, 0 reinstalled, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 93.9MB of archives.
After unpacking 48.7MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [y/N] y
So, I recommend that you keep the exclusions and review all updates to excluded packages as they become available and upgrade only after careful consideration.
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by Tim CowChip » 27. Aug 2012, 18:39

laprjns wrote:
Tim CowChip wrote:Removing the excludes is how I will be keeping informed of new kernel releases via the salix-update-notifier.
Actually that will not keep you informed, it will just update all the packages, possibly without you noticing it. Keeping the exclusions will inform you that there are packages considered to be critical for update and lets you decide if they should be or not.
The salix-update-notifier uses a popup notification for packages that have a newer version in the repository and are not in the excluded list. This is what I mean by "how I keep informed".

I have 2 Salix installs and 3rd OS for everyday use of my computer and with all the rebooting I do, I like the notification popup. It lets me know right away if there's a new package that I need to install.

If kernels need to be updated for package building purposes, then I won't be installing them by accident. I will install them intentionally and they do not need to be excluded in gslapt.
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by mimosa » 28. Aug 2012, 12:26

Is rootuser-settings a package one should upgrade, or leave well alone?

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by gapan » 29. Aug 2012, 07:30

mimosa wrote:Is rootuser-settings a package one should upgrade, or leave well alone?
Read the package descrption. ;)
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by mimosa » 29. Aug 2012, 09:44

I can do even better than that. Those settings are:

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vanilla[~]$ tar -xvf rootuser-settings-13.37-noarch-2gv.txz 
[...]
root/.vim/
root/.vim/colors/
root/.vim/colors/xemacs.vim
root/.bashrc
root/.elvisrc
root/.nanorc
root/.screenrc
root/.vimrc
root/.xinitrc
root/.Xresources
root/.gtkrc-2.0
So no harm in "upgrading" it as far as packaging's concerned, but no need and no benefit.

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.0alpha1

Post by mimosa » 29. Aug 2012, 09:47

Somewhat off-topic, try running /root/.xinitrc :twisted:

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