Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by gapan » 19. Aug 2016, 10:46

Bart wrote:
laprjns wrote:
Bart wrote:What? It seeks also the packages of slackbuilds.org? How it works? I
Take a look at the Salix Startup Guide,specifically section 3.1 and 3.2.
Ok, but there is something wrong. Slapt-src read from slackbuilds.org.

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vlsub:0.9.13 - vlsub (VLC extension)
Yes, there was indeed something wrong. The scripts were set to look for duplicates in the 14.1 repos (oops). So, vlc did not appear under sbo-14.2 because we had a package in 14.1. That's fixed now, you should find it as soon as your mirror syncs.
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by gapan » 19. Aug 2016, 12:20

westms wrote:Xfce has since Salix64 Xfce 14.2alpha1 an additional logging enabled. This is written to file ~/.xfce4-session.verbose-log.

This logging is jointly responsible for the partially tough impression on older computers.
On the laptop I am right now, that file has a size of 9.9KB. Unless you're writing it on floppy drives in an 8086 system from 1985, that shouldn't cause anything like that.
westms wrote:In my research I found out that unintentionally enhanced logging is permanently enabled.

The error should have been cleared over a year ago.
I don't see any error.
westms wrote:Please check if this logging can be turned off by configuring the package with the additional parameter --disable-debug .
--disable-debug does not do what you think it does. It's about disabling debugging symbols in the binaries. Nothing to do with logging or anything remotely like that.
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by gapan » 19. Aug 2016, 12:42

westms wrote:It looks as if Meld has a problem with the access to icons/symbols for showing, for example, in the "Select First/Second File" dialog. These are all in black and white. The variable labels hold no distances/spacings to the icons and fonts are strange. Other icons/symbols, as in the comparative representation of two files, are mostly black and white, a few are also colored.
Are you complaining about how GTK+3 themes work? I'm not sure how we can do anything about that...
westms wrote:Sourcery SlackBuild Manager generates long messages in .xsession-errors by logging the percentage count up. Perhaps this is done with intent. The second line is 6201 characters long.
I will look into it, but certainly not before the final release. I don't think it's a problem.
westms wrote:If the UEFI Manager entry is clicked in the Salix system menu, then a login dialog appears. After entering the password, it will disappear and that is it already, no more visible reaction. In .xsession-errors is logged:

No UEFI partition detected. Aborting.

Well, on this computer I don't have a UEFI firmware, but a menu entry and inquisitiveness I have.
Wait. If you don't have UEFI firmware, how/why did you have guefi installed? Was it installed by default? That would be a bug indeed, but I don't see how this could happen. Or did you install it yourself? In which case, isn't it obvious it wouldn't work?
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by gapan » 19. Aug 2016, 12:45

mimosa wrote:Not really a beta / RC issue, but the new Firefox consistently crashes for me when I click on Restore (previous tabs) on launching it. This is in x86_64. I dare say it will come out in the wash with the next version, anyway.
Probably a problem with your firefox profile or maybe plugins? Try with a clean one and see if it still crashes.

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by laprjns » 19. Aug 2016, 15:05

gapan wrote:westms wrote:
If the UEFI Manager entry is clicked in the Salix system menu, then a login dialog appears. After entering the password, it will disappear and that is it already, no more visible reaction. In .xsession-errors is logged:

No UEFI partition detected. Aborting.

Well, on this computer I don't have a UEFI firmware, but a menu entry and inquisitiveness I have.

Wait. If you don't have UEFI firmware, how/why did you have guefi installed? Was it installed by default? That would be a bug indeed, but I don't see how this could happen. Or did you install it yourself? In which case, isn't it obvious it wouldn't work?
On my two installations of Salix(32) -xfce RC1, guefi is not installed, however my ESP partitions do get mounted on /boot/efi, but t i believe that the installer asked me if I wanted to do that. Also, both my systems have gtp partitioned disks with an ESP partition.

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by Bart » 19. Aug 2016, 21:25

gapan wrote:Yes, there was indeed something wrong. The scripts were set to look for duplicates in the 14.1 repos (oops). So, vlc did not appear under sbo-14.2 because we had a package in 14.1. That's fixed now, you should find it as soon as your mirror syncs.
Thanks Gapan.

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by westms » 26. Aug 2016, 02:26

Two notices,

first:
gapan wrote:
westms wrote:It looks as if Meld has a problem with the access to icons/symbols for showing, for example, in the "Select First/Second File" dialog. These are all in black and white. The variable labels hold no distances/spacings to the icons and fonts are strange. Other icons/symbols, as in the comparative representation of two files, are mostly black and white, a few are also colored.
Are you complaining about how GTK+3 themes work? I'm not sure how we can do anything about that...
I did not complain. I have tested and reported the found bugs/problems.

Can you not see the poor representation of icons in Meld on your Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1/2 installation?

The input interface using the mouse is broken too. In "Select First/Second File" dialog you can usually select a file or a folder by one click or by a double-click. The objects, which are activated by double-clicking are now selected by two single clicks. The clicks can be arbitrarily far apart. Meld in Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1 is defective.
gapan wrote:
westms wrote:Sourcery SlackBuild Manager generates long messages in .xsession-errors by logging the percentage count up. Perhaps this is done with intent. The second line is 6201 characters long.
I will look into it, but certainly not before the final release. I don't think it's a problem.
I saw this strange logging in "Sourcery SlackBuild Manager"-Logs for the individual packages too.
gapan wrote:Wait. If you don't have UEFI firmware, how/why did you have guefi installed? Was it installed by default? That would be a bug indeed, but I don't see how this could happen. Or did you install it yourself? In which case, isn't it obvious it wouldn't work?
The test machine has no UEFI firmware. There is no GPT, no ESP. I have not installed the UEFI Manager manually. To verify this, I installed Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1 again freshly. The package is automatically installed. Said menu entry was made without my help.

Your response tells me, however, that this should not be. When the installation of the package depends on the result of the hardware detection, then maybe the hardware detection does not works correctly or the result of the hardware detection is perhaps not used properly.

If on a Salix(32) Xfce 14.2RC1 installation with UEFI firmware, the package is not installed, that is quite easy to explain: The 32-bit image does not contain the package. So it can not be installed.

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-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    1613 Aug 22 01:02 zd1211-firmware-1.4-fw-1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39547 Aug 22 01:01 zenity-3.18.1.1-x86_64-1gv
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   26960 Aug 22 01:02 zim-0.65-x86_64-1gv
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     960 Aug 22 00:59 zlib-1.2.8-x86_64-1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     969 Aug 22 00:59 zoo-2.10_22-x86_64-1
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Secondly:

The test computer is not equipped with Wireless or Bluetooth. Nevertheless, services run to be seen as the System Services menu. Maybe this should be so, maybe not. These services, I neither have installed manually, nor started. I write that here just in case that a fault in the hardware detection is present.

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Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1 apparently does no longer receive updates. I don't like to burn and install RC2 also. Free USB memory sticks for that I don't have at the moment. Therefore I stop my tests.

Did I hear: What a relief?

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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by gapan » 26. Aug 2016, 08:49

westms wrote:Can you not see the poor representation of icons in Meld on your Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1/2 installation?
No.
westms wrote:Meld in Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1 is defective.
No, it isn't. But if you think it is, feel free to provide patches upstream.
westms wrote:I saw this strange logging in "Sourcery SlackBuild Manager"-Logs for the individual packages too.
Sourcery keeps logs of everything it does when building packages. That is a feature.
westms wrote:Your response tells me, however, that this should not be.
Correct. I will look into it.

westms wrote:The test computer is not equipped with Wireless or Bluetooth. Nevertheless, services run to be seen as the System Services menu. Maybe this should be so, maybe not. These services, I neither have installed manually, nor started. I write that here just in case that a fault in the hardware detection is present.
There is no hardware detection when setting up services. Anything like that and it would fail miserably with a lot of hardware. These services are on for everyone by default. That is the way it has always been.
westms wrote:Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1 apparently does no longer receive updates.
I don't understand what you mean.
westms wrote:Did I hear: What a relief?
I don't understand what you mean either.
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by gapan » 26. Aug 2016, 12:44

westms wrote:The test machine has no UEFI firmware. There is no GPT, no ESP. I have not installed the UEFI Manager manually. To verify this, I installed Salix64 Xfce 14.2RC1 again freshly. The package is automatically installed. Said menu entry was made without my help.

Your response tells me, however, that this should not be. When the installation of the package depends on the result of the hardware detection, then maybe the hardware detection does not works correctly or the result of the hardware detection is perhaps not used properly.
OK, so I was wrong. All packages are installed in every system using the 64bit iso. That includes guefi. Maybe we should think about this in the future, but it's too late to change it for this release. Instead of that, I made the appropriate changes to guefi 0.1.2 to actually show an error dialog when it is ran in a non-UEFI system and not only a message that you can only see if you launch it from the terminal.
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Re: Salix Xfce 14.2RC1 (32-bit) and 14.2RC2 (64-bit)

Post by mimosa » 29. Aug 2016, 10:51

One very minor thing - in a shell, if for example one mistypes a password, "funny" messages appear. As I recall, this is standard in Slack, but in the past was turned off in Salix.

Those messages are traditional, but I don't personally find most of them amusing.

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