Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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missTell
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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Besides broken Xfce taskbar (panel) scaling, panel-profiler is broken too.

Restore to Salix, and the Start Menu is missing.

https://ibb.co/r3pwDPf
https://ibb.co/yWpg2fD

Restore to Cupertino, and again no Start Menu.

https://ibb.co/yFnVbFj

Restore to Redmond 7, and again no Start Menu, and the systray icons are too large.

https://ibb.co/rvDbgkV

Restore to Xubuntu 12.04 (Precise), and you get ... something very wrong ...

https://ibb.co/NYBfcKb

... or even less than that, if you choose other Xubuntu versions:

https://ibb.co/JrhVbmY
https://ibb.co/C9sbk57

That's how real Ubuntu looks like:

https://ibb.co/9NrG1sj

And this is what 'Salibuntu' should look like:

https://ibb.co/N7G4Ztc

('Home' moved bottom-right in the meanwhile.)

However, even if it kinda reminds of Ubuntu, that's all there is.

https://ibb.co/fCJVzRS

There are no other similarities.


* Also, watch carefully how pop-ups are sometimes landing out of the screen, poping-up in the wrong direction, as well as white-on-white network manager icon being back -- at least here.
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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Do you add exfat support or is it still too experimental?
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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PyQt5 is a missing dependency of KolorControl

tintii segfaults when trying to open images
urbanlandscape segfaults when trying to open images

Even when i try to compile these applications they segfault

This system is not a fresh installation because i have tested several applications so i don't know if they work on a fresh installation.

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* 64-bit ISO
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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SalixManiac wrote: 21. Jul 2022, 10:52 Do you add exfat support or is it still too experimental?
I have a 4TB exfat format usb disk, that one works in 14.2
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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Yeah that panel profile app is nice but also makes trouble across distros. Not exactly essential either.
I fix this sort of thing by taking an xfce config (vanilla config) from another machine, bit crude but. I suppose all components, themes and stuff must be there for these layouts from various sources to work?
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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coyotl wrote: 24. Jul 2022, 08:55 Yeah that panel profile app is nice but also makes trouble across distros. Not exactly essential either.
I fix this sort of thing by taking an xfce config (vanilla config) from another machine, bit crude but. I suppose all components, themes and stuff must be there for these layouts from various sources to work?
You suppose correct.

Addendum:
Essential is always open to discussion, but I consider it to be very usefull, as one can at least save a couple of own configurations.
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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by coyotl
I have a 4TB exfat format usb disk, that one works in 14.2
Thank you coyotl for your feedback,But this little devil of Patrick Volkerer added that in Salckware15.0.
PACKAGE NAME: exfatprogs-1.1.3-x86_64-1.txz
exfatprogs: exfatprogs (exFAT filesystem utilities)
exfatprogs: The exfatprogs package contains all of the standard utilities for
exfatprogs: creating, fixing, and debugging exFAT filesystems. The goal of
exfatprogs: exfatprogs is to provide high performance and quality at the level of
exfatprogs: exFAT exfat utilities in windows.

As new exfat filesystem is merged into linux-5.7 kernel, exfatprogs is created as an official userspace utilities that contain all of the standard utilities for creating and fixing and debugging exfat filesystem in linux system.

Benchmarks
Some fsck implementations were tested and compared for Samsung 64GB Pro microSDXC UHS-I Class 10 which was filled up to 35GB with 9948 directories and 16506 files by fsstress.
The difference in the execution time for each testing is very small.
Implementation version ____________ execution time (seconds)
exfatprogs fsck 1.0.4 ______________ 11.561
Windows fsck Windows 10 _________ 11.449
exfat-fuse fsck 1.3.0 ______________ 68.977
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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I uploaded 4 VM's to people ... if anybody cares.

Since basically only 3 configurations are possible ...

SalWiNicer_15 -- Windows-like, with Qogir and better GTK theme; mostly standard installation, only with better OOTB configuration
Salibuntu_15 -- Ubuntu-like, but without external components -- only what standard Xfce offers; better GTK-theme and icon-set
McSalixOs_15 -- Mac-like, but without external components -- only what standard Xfce offers; better GTK-theme and icon-set
SalixIce_15 -- Does anybody still remembers IceWM's Strg+Alt+Space shortcut? The best thing ever, since there is OS GUI ...
Just press the combo and type the application name inside the toolbar ...

Username is password ...


P.S.
Make sure you check The Gimp ... There was somebody who spent the insane amount of time to make it usable ...

Addendum:
* Better icon-set is NOT about a taste or the lack of it. It is about 'objectively better, because ...'
Newaita icons are way better than Qogir, as it is not 'classic' (shadows), nor 'modern' (flat), but it is a mix of both.
This means, one can easily mix modern flat icons with some 95-look, and the result still doesn't make one jump from the roof ...

Here you can see how totally different icon-styles can coexist ...

https://ibb.co/3fXP447
https://ibb.co/C1nm54W
https://ibb.co/qnyDQFH
https://ibb.co/mBsLKdS

This is an important feature, as the people out there will install different apps, and even some Flatpak's ...
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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First: This is not an attempt to press Gapan.

However from February, when Slackware 15 was released, has been near half a year and salix 15 is not yet launched. Some packages on 14.2 are now too old.

My question: despite salix 15 is not 100 % polished according the Gapan's criterion, can we do an upgrade of all the system simply changing repositories and running slapt-get --update && slapt-get --upgrade? Would be this secure?

Thanks for your support,
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Re: Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

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missTell wrote: 20. Jul 2022, 15:18 Besides broken Xfce taskbar (panel) scaling, panel-profiler is broken too.

Restore to Salix, and the Start Menu is missing.
Restore to Cupertino, and again no Start Menu.
Restore to Redmond 7, and again no Start Menu, and the systray icons are too large.
Restore to Xubuntu 12.04 (Precise), and you get ... something very wrong ...
I don't get any of these. And by trying out your VMs, I don't see anything like that there either. It must be something you've tweaked in you local configuration.
missTell wrote: 20. Jul 2022, 15:18 * Also, watch carefully how pop-ups are sometimes landing out of the screen, poping-up in the wrong direction, as well as white-on-white network manager icon being back -- at least here.
Can you elaborate on this? I don't see what you're talking about here either.
missTell wrote: 25. Jul 2022, 17:11 I uploaded 4 VM's to people ... if anybody cares.

Since basically only 3 configurations are possible ...

SalWiNicer_15 -- Windows-like, with Qogir and better GTK theme; mostly standard installation, only with better OOTB configuration
What did you change for the hover effect on the panel launcher icons?
missTell wrote: 25. Jul 2022, 17:11 Make sure you check The Gimp ... There was somebody who spent the insane amount of time to make it usable ...
Not sure about that. Maybe it makes it more familiar for photoshop users. But we can't use that as it is. It makes no sense to bundle all those fonts like that, only for the sake of gimp and I'm not really sure it is legal to do so.
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