Salix 15.0RC4

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Salix 15.0RC4

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OK, so this is definitely the final Release Candidate! I discovered a nasty bug with the previous RC when setting up user accounts during installation, so we had to have another one.

* Fixed a nasty bug during installation (and also in usersetup/gtkusersetup tools) when the user entered a password with exactly 5 characters, or otherwise a very simple password, where the password setting failed silently (sort of, it displayed an error message *very* briefly, almost impossible to catch) and the user was left thinking they had entered a valid password, but none was set! So they wouldn't be able to log into their system after installation!
* Added support for dvorak programmer keymaps (in the installer too)
* When booting the installation medium, instead of typing "setup", you can also press the up arrow key to recall the command (useful if you're using a keyboard that does not correspond to the default keymap)
* Minor changes to looks (icons and panel layout)
* Some package updates, like firefox
* Updated Portuguese translations on the installer

Here it is...

Salix64 Xfce 15.0RC4 (64-bit, x86_64)
(md5: 46121e56e3e5621d6b905ab53ed9ce8d, size: 1.4GB)
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/proje ... 5.0RC4.iso

Salix Xfce 15.0RC4 (32-bit, i586/i686)
(md5: bbb839c08938f72e547fd3fa9ef121b0, size: 1.4GB)
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/proje ... 5.0RC4.iso

Thanks once again for testing!
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Re: Salix 15.0RC4

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Thanks @gapan

I will test it today.
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Re: Salix 15.0RC4

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Will a package upgrade be enough to turn RC3 to RC4?
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Re: Salix 15.0RC4

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mimosa wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 10:24 Will a package upgrade be enough to turn RC3 to RC4?
Yes, except a few minor things, if you care about them:
* install the kbd-extra package if you want the dvorak programmer keymaps ;)
* change the systray icon size to 24, so tray tooltips are visible
* change the l3afpad icon in the taskbar launcher to "text-editor"
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gapan wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 10:41
Yes, except a few minor things, if you care about them:
* install the kbd-extra package if you want the dvorak programmer keymaps ;)
I may be the only Salix user to take advantage of this, but it's nice to have it there! :ugeek:
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mimosa wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 11:12 I may be the only Salix user to take advantage of this, but it's nice to have it there! :ugeek:
You never know. But including it was definitely the reason why I found out about the password issue I mentioned above. ;)
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Just for that it was already worth it :D In the small details is the difference that makes Salix and you @gapan great!
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Re: Salix 15.0RC4

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hugok wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 13:17 Just for that it was already worth it :D In the small details is the difference that makes Salix and you @gapan great!
From: missTell@freetime.net
To: small.details@gapan.salixos.org
Subject: missTell can't hear 'small details make difference' anymore and is 🤮@home ...

😅 😂 🤣

I'd like to say "well-done", but it isn't ... 😭

1. A pencil or a leaf? 🤢

Apart from that leaf-icon not being the prettiest, it's either -- or.

https://ibb.co/nCsPSJH

2. Whatever changes you did to that 'All Applications' & 'Recently Used', they (negatively) affect all other icon sets ... 😣

https://ibb.co/kKFSmq4

https://ibb.co/5R2mwHn

3. I DID answer "31" (4@30 panel) ... for a reason. 😟 🙁 ☹️ 😣 😖 😫 😩 🥺 😢 😭 😤 😠 😡 🤬 🤯 😳 🥵 🥶 🥴 🤢 🤮 ... 🙄

The full-screen screenshots ...

https://ibb.co/M8Q8swz

https://ibb.co/wd5K56y

Somewhat larger:

https://ibb.co/T18n1W0

https://ibb.co/Xz1cvJQ

https://ibb.co/TkvLtXd

If someone still can't see, even larger:

https://ibb.co/nbTqwzj

The distance between the panel top border and the tooltip bottom border becomes even @31 -- NOT @24! 🤮

And then, there is also the advantage, that someone who makes the panel little bit taller, won't immediately loose the tooltip.

4. Desktop "I want more information" pop-up:

https://ibb.co/0VbXjqJ

You WON'T get more information, but you WILL GET a VERY UGLY desktop. Dot. (no com) 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮

5. All other issues ...

- System area icons left and right, and the pager in between. That looks ugly, and it breaks the system area logic ...

- No 'energy / battery' on the panel (which most people need), but 4 pager windows (which almost nobody needs, but occupy 1/6th of panel space).

https://ibb.co/2kf3DDL

https://www.statista.com/statistics/272 ... sktop-pcs/

- White panel and blue window frame(s) ain't ugly, but very disturbing -- if watching images or video, or working with graphic / video applications.

6. While making a new IceWM theme, I noticed one other issue related to 'defaults' ... Icons, Themes, GTK 2/3/4, XDG Environments etc. ...

Maybe it's just me, or the Slackware, don't know, but the fact is, some things do not work as expected.

Didn't make the screenshots yet, so it'll have to wait a bit.


* Screenshots of the issue -- screenshot of Geany in:

antiX: https://ibb.co/bP7HL5y

Salix: https://ibb.co/RSc3HLW

Just as an example, as it affects most, but not all applications.

If I switch back from IceWM to Xfce, then (mostly) everything is behaving as expected.

As you can clearly see, SpaceFM looks as it is supposed to, but Geany has no system-theme nor icons, nor cursor, nor ...
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Re: Salix 15.0RC4

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missTell wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 14:32 1. A pencil or a leaf? 🤢
Come on, you should know better. One is the generic "text-editor" icon, the other one is the l3afpad specific icon.
missTell wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 14:32 2. Whatever changes you did to that 'All Applications' & 'Recently Used', they (negatively) affect all other icon sets ... 😣
Whiskermenu now uses the "applications-all" and "default-folder-recent" icons for those. You icon sets need to provide those.
missTell wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 14:32 3. I DID answer "31" (4@30 panel) ... for a reason. 😟 🙁 ☹️ 😣 😖 😫 😩 🥺 😢 😭 😤 😠 😡 🤬 🤯 😳 🥵 🥶 🥴 🤢 🤮 ... 🙄
Yes, and your arguments weren't very convincing. No matter what the defaults are, there is a course that will lead to "broken" behavior. So, I settled for this. If someone changes the panel height, they can also change the tray icon height too.
missTell wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 14:32 4. Desktop "I want more information" pop-up:

You WON'T get more information, but you WILL GET a VERY UGLY desktop. Dot. (no com) 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮
You won't get more information if you hover over that icon, but do it on an image or a pdf and you will.
missTell wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 14:32 - System area icons left and right, and the pager in between. That looks ugly, and it breaks the system area logic ...
There are no system icons to the right of the pager. And I have already provided the reasoning behind this: the pager doesn't move around when adding/removing tray items.
missTell wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 14:32 - No 'energy / battery' on the panel (which most people need), but 4 pager windows (which almost nobody needs, but occupy 1/6th of panel space).
4 virtual desktops is the minimum that I could consider using.
missTell wrote: 29. Aug 2022, 14:32 6. While making a new IceWM theme, I noticed one other issue related to 'defaults' ... Icons, Themes, GTK 2/3/4, XDG Environments etc. ...
Maybe it's just me, or the Slackware, don't know, but the fact is, some things do not work as expected.
I'm guessing that you need to start your icewm session with dbus-launch. Not really sure.
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I tend to agree with some things that missTell says, small details that make a difference but I think overall Salix looks reasonably well done. I think it should have some programs instead of others (more Xfce centric like mousepad instead of l3afpad, etc..) but IMHO it is ready for release. In RC4 everything worked well for me. In the end, I just want Salix to not stray too far from Slackware! Only a bit polished and easy for the user. Although the "userland" is always controversial
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