Naïve question, maybe

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Naïve question, maybe

Post by beranger » 21. Sep 2009, 10:17

Salix OS is compatible with Slackware 13.0, right?
So people could go to Slacky.eu for extra packages, right?
What it... Slacky doesn't have (yet?) for 13.0 the same packages they have for 12.2?
Could Salix offer some prepackaged applications, should they be of a larger interest?

Examples:
-- Comix: http://www.slacky.eu/aadm/pkgs/index.php?pkg=1337&ver=6
-- WINE: http://www.slacky.eu/aadm/pkgs/index.php?pkg=189&ver=6

Just asking...

Off-topic (sorry, I'm too lazy to open a different thread): how about a transparent-by-default text background for the desktop icons, à la Linux Mint XFCE?

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Re: Naïve question, maybe

Post by gapan » 21. Sep 2009, 11:54

beranger wrote:Salix OS is compatible with Slackware 13.0, right?
So people could go to Slacky.eu for extra packages, right?
Right.
beranger wrote:What it... Slacky doesn't have (yet?) for 13.0 the same packages they have for 12.2?
Could Salix offer some prepackaged applications, should they be of a larger interest?
Yes, and that is what this forum section is about.
Sure, look for them in our repos in a few hours. ;)
beranger wrote:Off-topic (sorry, I'm too lazy to open a different thread): how about a transparent-by-default text background for the desktop icons, à la Linux Mint XFCE?
Do you have more info on how to do that? I'm not sure I would like it more than the way it is now, but a try never hurt.
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Re: Naïve question, maybe

Post by beranger » 21. Sep 2009, 12:08

gapan wrote:Sure, look for them in our repos in a few hours. ;)
Ooooh, thanks.
gapan wrote:
beranger wrote:Off-topic (sorry, I'm too lazy to open a different thread): how about a transparent-by-default text background for the desktop icons, à la Linux Mint XFCE?
Do you have more info on how to do that? I'm not sure I would like it more than the way it is now, but a try never hurt.
It's somewhat described in /usr/share/doc/xfdesktop4/README:

Code: Select all

HIDDEN CUSTOMISATIONS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If you're using the icon view, and would like to change how the text looks,
you have three things you can change: the opacity (transparency) of the
rounded text background, the color of the rounded text background, and the
color of the text itself.

You'd want to add something like this to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file:

style "xfdesktop-icon-view" {
XfdesktopIconView::label-alpha = 75

base[NORMAL] = "#00ff00"
base[SELECTED] = "#5050ff"
base[ACTIVE] = "#0000ff"

fg[NORMAL] = "#ff0000"
fg[SELECTED] = "#ff0000"
fg[ACTIVE] = "#ff0000"
}
widget_class "*XfdesktopIconView*" style "xfdesktop-icon-view"

The first entry sets the opacity of the rounded text background. The allowed
values are from 0 (totally transparent) to 255 (totally opaque).

The second three entries set the color of the rounded text background.
* NORMAL sets the color for the regular, unselected state.
* SELECTED sets the color for when the icon is selected, and the desktop has
keyboard/mouse focus.
* ACTIVE sets the color for when the icon is selected, but the desktop does
not have keyboard/mouse focus.

The final three entries set the color of the label text. See above for the
differences between NORMAL, SELECTED, and ACTIVE. 
I expect most people to like it better without that bloody "frame": screenshot of Mint XFCE.

XFCE's problem is that it can't draw the text with outline or shadow :-(

...while Windoze can:
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Re: Naïve question, maybe

Post by gapan » 21. Sep 2009, 13:08

Hmm... yes. While it looks nice, the lack of an outline or shadow would potentially be a problem if someone uses a background that uses the same color as the icon text, the text would remain hidden. I think we'll keep it as it is, but that's good info for our wiki.
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Re: Naïve question, maybe

Post by beranger » 21. Sep 2009, 13:39

gapan wrote:Hmm... yes. While it looks nice, the lack of an outline or shadow would potentially be a problem if someone uses a background that uses the same color as the icon text, the text would remain hidden. I think we'll keep it as it is, but that's good info for our wiki.
I only hope XFCE 7.0 will be able to draw outlines and shadows for the icon text... :mrgreen:
(the cropped picture is from Windows 7, but Windows can do that from... I'm not sure whether it's Win98SE or Win2k.)

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Re: Naïve question, maybe

Post by JRD » 21. Sep 2009, 15:22

Good tips !
Maybe we can see the XFCE code source to understand why there is no shadow with transparent background...but maybe it's a bit too complicated :)
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Re: Naïve question, maybe

Post by gapan » 21. Sep 2009, 21:03

beranger wrote:(the cropped picture is from Windows 7, but Windows can do that from... I'm not sure whether it's Win98SE or Win2k.)
Yeah, it's only the important stuff they can't get right. :D
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