ChuangTzu wrote:wait, i like nano for cli editing, what does that mean?
Nano is always there, no matter what distro you use, so it's a must.
PS: I am HuangLao on Debian forum, notice my gentle nudging the post there towards Salix...
I noticed, kind of obvious, I guess. However, don't expect much, because the biggest weapon in systemd's armory is today's "average user's indifference". Most people just don't care what init system is used (although systemd is NOT an init system, but they don't care about that either). Most users would call you a "nerd" because you care about such "technical details".
Once upon a time, the average Linux user cared about all that. But the "easy to use" trend attracted people barely interested on Linux, so I believe the "average user" shifted to the "newbie" side. Ubuntu has its big share on that. When I first saw someone plugging a usb stick on a laptop running Ubuntu, then a window popped up saying "New hardware detected" I said to him "What the heck is this. This is not Linux!"
Sometimes I am missing the old times, when installing GNU/Linux was not that easy, just because of what the "average Linux user" is today.