Make the people want what they don't need ...

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missTell
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Make the people want what they don't need ...

Post by missTell »

Now, since the "ugly duckling" got officially released, together with the worst ever screenshot accompanying some new release on DW in the last decade or so, of yet another Linux distribution which nobody needs, we'd like to keep you in the "Top 100", and eventually even move you little bit closer to the top ...

What you need now is to attract some young people and distrohoppers -- make an "attractibution" out of "neardstribution".

32-bit version must get IceWM version, beside or instead of Xfce, as it consumes ± half of the RAM, and same time, it looks just as good, if not even (much) better, and is more appropriate to those 1992 PC's that some masochists won't let go.

The suggestion:

(best to read while listening @45:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFGJFj4pzZo something relaxing ...)

You should make a few "Special Edition" Salixes -- it costs at most a day to make it with the concept and materials made by me.

All it takes is to remove a few things, and to replace them with another few -- and repackage.

In November ("Halloween", the day of the dead ...):

Salix 15.0 The Dracula Edition

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viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8407

In February:

Salix 15.0 Sexy Baby -- The Valentine Edition

(Xfce)

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(IceWM)

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(Xfce)

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Even "L'edition pornographique" ... (watch the icons closely!!) 😉

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In Sommer:

Salix 15.0 The Sunny Edition

(IceWM)

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(Xfce)

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... The Rainy Day Edition ...

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... The Sundown Edition ... (300 ... Sparta Edition?) 😘

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... 'Need more coffee' Edition ...

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And then, there's already the next Halloween again ... 😉

All it takes is to get rid of what you like, and give people what they like (and need).

Maybee it even atracts some sponsors and makes me finally move further and start looking forward ... 😀 😃 😄

Or, you'd maybee become something like 'Andy Warhol Linux', which would be at least one good reason to download and install something that nobody needs ... 😁 😆 😅 😂 🤣

https://www.google.com/search?q=andy+wa ... e&tbm=isch
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

Post by DidierSpaier »

Easier way to double (or more) your RAM: swap in zram. Here (laptop with 8G RAM):

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root[/]# free -th
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.7Gi       3.2Gi       788Mi       302Mi       3.7Gi       3.8Gi
Swap:           16Gi       782Mi        15Gi
Total:          23Gi       4.0Gi        16Gi
root[/]# swapon
NAME           TYPE       SIZE   USED  PRIO
/swap/swapfile file      1024M     0B     5
/dev/zram1     partition 15.3G 782.3M 32567
root[/]# zramctl
NAME       ALGORITHM DISKSIZE   DATA  COMPR  TOTAL STREAMS MOUNTPOINT
/dev/zram1 zstd         15.3G 781.5M 237.2M 248.2M       4 [SWAP]
PS If you like IceWM, Absolute Linux has it.
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

Post by hugok »

I really had noticed that on distrowatch when Salix 15.0 was released the screenshot was a bit strange and even unusual. Usually it shows a desktop screenshot with the menu open, but in Salix the libreoffice writter appears open with the text Salix 15.0! I think even sometimes the old one(wallpaper) appeared... this makes the wallpaper not visible! Which in the case of Salix is just a beautiful wallpaper. This actually takes away a bit from the Salix branding. (Who doesn't remember the Bliss wallpaper in Windows XP!)

I think an email should be sent to distrowatch so that a proper salix screenshot is reestablished!

@missTell I really liked the idea of the Editions and the artwork!

Being Slackware based salix is hard to stay visible on Distrowatch, so it would be good for salix promotion.

About the IceWm version, I couldn't agree more because I'm the Portuguese translator of antiX and IceWM! So I quite enjoy the speed and "low resource" IceWM environment.
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

Post by djemos »

or use openbox

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djemos[~]$ free -th
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7,7Gi       1,6Gi       3,5Gi        66Mi       2,6Gi       5,7Gi
Swap:          4,5Gi          0B       4,5Gi
Total:          12Gi       1,6Gi       8,0Gi
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

Post by gapan »

@missTell, feel free to send me better screenshots.

And I have no control over what screenshots distrowatch decided to use.
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

Post by djemos »

I just like to say some thoughts without misunderstood.
Salix is ​​a wonderful distribution. It is not responsible for what screenshots other sites use. It looks very polished and well looking. This edition is even better. Consider that made from just one developer. All that should be mentioned is a big "thank you" to Gapan the creator and developer of the distribution for taking the time to create the salix xfce 15.0 release.
Regarding the other versions, e.g. icewm, openbox, mate etc this takes time and work. It's not just changing some programs or wallpapers. Anyone who has dealt with creating a distribution derivative understands. A lot of time is needed and work.
Of course anyone can get involved and help and create new versions. The scripts for creating the installation editions and live editions are on github.
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

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djemos wrote: 13. Sep 2022, 08:01 or use openbox

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djemos[~]$ free -th
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7,7Gi       1,6Gi       3,5Gi        66Mi       2,6Gi       5,7Gi
Swap:          4,5Gi          0B       4,5Gi
Total:          12Gi       1,6Gi       8,0Gi
I also like Openbox but only if it has Tint2 panel and jgmenu by default.... :roll:
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

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gapan wrote: 13. Sep 2022, 08:02 @missTell, feel free to send me better screenshots.

And I have no control over what screenshots distrowatch decided to use.
I know it's not your fault @gapan. A simple Salix 15.0 screenshot with the menu open was enough, Distrowatch is the one who liked to invent this time!
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

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djemos wrote: 13. Sep 2022, 08:39 I just like to say some thoughts without misunderstood.
Salix is ​​a wonderful distribution. It is not responsible for what screenshots other sites use. It looks very polished and well looking. This edition is even better. Consider that made from just one developer. All that should be mentioned is a big "thank you" to Gapan the creator and developer of the distribution for taking the time to create the salix xfce 15.0 release.
Regarding the other versions, e.g. icewm, openbox, mate etc this takes time and work. It's not just changing some programs or wallpapers. Anyone who has dealt with creating a distribution derivative understands. A lot of time is needed and work.
Of course anyone can get involved and help and create new versions. The scripts for creating the installation editions and live editions are on github.
I don't even know how @gapan can do this all by himself :o It takes a lot of sacrifice and dedication!

Above all we are people who also have their own life away from computers.
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Re: Make the people want what they don't need ...

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missTell wrote: 12. Sep 2022, 20:39 Now, since the "ugly duckling" got officially released, together with the worst ever screenshot accompanying some new release on DW in the last decade or so, of yet another Linux distribution which nobody needs, we'd like to keep you in the "Top 100", and eventually even move you little bit closer to the top ...
Right, so what we need now is pinkish colors in the desktop and sexy lips as wallpapers... Last time I checked, Salix was not exactly a distribution for horny teenagers. :lol:
I didn't know Salix 15 is the "ugly duckling" but guess what, I think it looks good and, more importantly, it works just fine. I like ducklings anyway. And for the few objections I had about the looks, I just modified Salix-dark theme a bit. Even the default Xfce 4.16 theme is good enough.

Also, gapan made it crystal clear he doesn't care much about "top 100", and I doubt any long-time Salix user cares as well. I would go as far as saying I don't want it to be near the top. Why? Because the only way to get there is to be like Crapbuntu - or whatever it is trendy nowadays. "Top!" is 100% rubbish and it made it there in no time.

missTell wrote: 12. Sep 2022, 20:39 32-bit version must get IceWM version, beside or instead of Xfce, as it consumes ± half of the RAM, and same time, it looks just as good, if not even (much) better, and is more appropriate to those 1992 PC's that some masochists won't let go.
I take the 1992 part as an exaggeration. Well, first of all we are not all as rich as you to throw away our old hardware to buy a new computer every year or two - plus the older one works just fine with the right operating system. Moore's law is more or less dead, in the sense a 10-years old computer (which I'm sure you would consider garbage) can run the right distribution top-notch.
Now about IceWM... it is certainly a good choice for low-end computers, such as the old 32-bit ones. Openbox-based "desktops" are lightweight as well. However, making such a "desktop" fully functional is not as easy as you think. It's not that hard, but if you think it only needs your themes you are totally wrong. It takes time to make a decent desktop out of IceWM or Openbox, and even more time to test everything to be ready at a "flagship desktop" level for a distribution.

hugok wrote: 13. Sep 2022, 10:52 I also like Openbox but only if it has Tint2 panel and jgmenu by default.... :roll:
djemos uses fbpanel instead of tint2 in Slackel. I found fbpanel both good looking and easier to configure - oh, it's ridiculously lightweight as well.
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