Slint64-14.2.1 is released.

Re: Slint64-14.2.1 is released.

Postby DidierSpaier » 28. Dec 2017, 10:54

Atip wrote:Networking applet on panel keeps on showing disabled.
The box to tick Enable Networking is disabled.
I could reproduce that installing wicd to manage the network connections as then the network-manager-applet can't work because the network manager daemon is not running.
Is it what you did? If yes, preferably use NetworkManager (or just dhcp or a static ip if you don't need a wireless connection), or remove the network manager applet from the panel typing these commands:
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cp /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
echo "Hidden=true" >> ~/.config/autostart/nm-applet.desktop
Doing so the nm-applet will disappear from the panel and the wicd applet will appear instead. However the wicd applet is not functional due to a dbus permission. I would have to investigate about that. Bottom line: preferably use one of the connection methods supported by Slint, unless none works (and if that's really the case, please report so we can investigate).

In fluxbox cursor has to be changed after every login with
Slint Control Center Look and Feel. It does not stay.
Just opening Look and Feel and cursor changes to what it was set.
No clicking needed on anything.
I have never seen that and I don't know how to reproduce, so no clue for this issue.
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Re: Slint64-14.2.1 is released.

Postby Atip » 29. Dec 2017, 03:38

DidierSpaier wrote:
Atip wrote:Networking applet on panel keeps on showing disabled.
The box to tick Enable Networking is disabled.
I could reproduce that installing wicd to manage the network connections as then the network-manager-applet can't work because the network manager daemon is not running.
Is it what you did? If yes, preferably use NetworkManager (or just dhcp or a static ip if you don't need a wireless connection), or remove the network manager applet from the panel typing these commands:
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cp /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
echo "Hidden=true" >> ~/.config/autostart/nm-applet.desktop
Doing so the nm-applet will disappear from the panel and the wicd applet will appear instead. However the wicd applet is not functional due to a dbus permission. I would have to investigate about that. Bottom line: preferably use one of the connection methods supported by Slint, unless none works (and if that's really the case, please report so we can investigate).

Solved! :D

I have no wicd installed and never did anything with the networling.

Thanks to your tip I had a look at nm-applet.
As root in terminal I typed nm-applet and an answer shot back:
rc.networkmanger is disabled. (or similar)
Made rc.networkmanager executable.
Run rc.networkmanager start, et voila Networkmanager-Applet is now
working properly.

I had reported this problem when still in the RC2 version.
And it was there on the new installed final version w/o me having done anything.

Edit: made rc.nw-manager none-executable rebooted and nwm-applet not working.
Made rc.nw-manager again executable rebooted and nwm-applet is working.
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Re: Slint64-14.2.1 is released.

Postby Atip » 12. Jan 2018, 03:37

Solved anothet problem. :)

I had reported that the cursor set with look and feel would not
stay after a reboot/login and look and fell had to be opened again
to reset.

Solution: in /usr/share/icons make symlinc with name default
to the cursor of choice in my case redglass.
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$ ls -l /usr/share/icons/default
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Jan 12 11:23 /usr/share/icons/default -> /usr/share/icons/redglass


Will there a new release coming which is less buggy?
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Re: Slint64-14.2.1 is released.

Postby DidierSpaier » 12. Jan 2018, 20:42

Atip wrote:I had reported that the cursor set with look and feel would not
stay after a reboot/login and look and fell had to be opened again
to reset.


Yes you had reported it but I forgot, sorry.

The reason is that lxappearance writes the setting in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 like this:
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gtk-cursor-theme-name="redglass"

But not all apps and graphical environments read this file. In fluxbox, geany does, as lxterminal and lxappearance itself, but not in other graphical environments like Mate...

Atip wrote:Solution: in /usr/share/icons make symlinc with name default
to the cursor of choice in my case redglass.

$ ls -l /usr/share/icons/default
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Jan 12 11:23 /usr/share/icons/default -> /usr/share/icons/redglass
Sorry, but this is not a general solution.

Yes it works in fluxbox, but e.g. it works neither in Mate nor in KDE.

It works in "lightweight" graphical environments, because they comply to what is stated in "man xcursor":
THEMES
Xcursor (mostly) follows the freedesktop.org spec for theming icons. The default search path it uses is ~/.icons, /usr/share/icons, /usr/share/pixmaps. Within each of these directories, it
searches for a directory using the theme name. Within the theme directory, it looks for cursor files in the 'cursors' subdirectory. It uses the first cursor file found along the path.

If necessary, Xcursor also looks for a "index.theme" file in each theme directory to find inherited themes and searches along the path for those themes as well.

If no theme is set, or if no cursor is found for the specified theme, Xcursor checks the "default" theme.
Other graphical environments use other ways to set the cursor theme, cf. this Archwiki page.

So to this question:
Will there a new release coming which is less buggy?
The answer is no if by "less buggy" you mean "have a way to set the same cursor theme for all graphical environments using the same command".

What I consider doing is remove from the Slint Dashboard utilities like lxapearance, not to let users assume that the settings they make will stand everywhere. In addition I will add a line in the .desktop file to prevent displaying the icon or entry menu where it is not effective, like in this case
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OnlyShowIn=LXDE;
At least this will be less confusing.

PS I will do that upgrading some packages, and in the same batch of updates (not a new version) solve the issue with the LightDM GTK+Greeter settings icon and a few others, and also bring big enhancements to speech and sound handling. You probably don't care at all for the latter issue, however it is very important for blind users who on the other hand couldn't care less about the cursor theme ;)
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Re: Slint64-14.2.1 is released.

Postby Atip » 13. Jan 2018, 03:26

Less buggy?
Well the cursor is just one issue. There are/were others as I reported,
like rc.networkmanager not enabled and that on a brand new install.

I went for Slint32 and still love it unfortunally the trend is now for 64bits.
So I gave Slint64 a try and stopped it and went instead for Slackel64.
The beauty of Slint is that it is complete for about all my needs unlike
Slackel where I have to install basics like xclock, joe, you name it.
That makes the iso naturally slim which is good with slow Internet connection
like mie.

I will keep on checking for updades In Slint64.
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Re: Slint64-14.2.1 is released.

Postby Atip » 13. Jan 2018, 07:00

Cursor Problem

Happy to report that my solution to the cursor problem in my box
is holding true through all desktop sessions I have installed.
Blackbox, lxde, twm, wmaker, xfce4 and mate.
Redglass cursor is even showing on the GDM login window.
I have no KDE installed.
Atip wrote:Solution: in /usr/share/icons make symlinc with name default
to the cursor of choice in my case redglass.

$ ls -l /usr/share/icons/default
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Jan 12 11:23 /usr/share/icons/default -> /usr/share/icons/redglass

DidierSpaier wrote: Sorry, but this is not a general solution.

Yes it works in fluxbox, but e.g. it works neither in Mate nor in KDE.
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