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Sorry, but I think when we speak about Ubuntu, we have to bring in also the name Shuttleworth.
It is because he founded Ubuntu and hence, he is like the chief o'brain there.
Why not link to a discussion going on there to see the real difference?
People tend to base their decisions on open discussions to build their own opinion.
When we say something about Ubuntu here in Salix Forum, it can be absolutely wrong (but must not to be so), so the people should really inform theirselfs at the origin of source, in that case the Ubuntu documentation.
But nevertheless, I see also absolutely no sense in comparing Ubuntu and Salix or using it for some sort of campaign.
It is not possible because the base, rudiments and ideas are different.
You can only explain both in their ways, like Akuna did in a really great job .

JRD wrote:But perhaps the sentence could be understand as "Salix brings easy configuration to Slackware the same way Ubuntu brings it to Debian".

No, because Debian already has an easy to use package manager, with dependencies, unlike Slackware, that's why I wrote "it is more like a Debian of Slackware".

damNageHack wrote:Sorry, but I think when we speak about Ubuntu, we have to bring in also the name Shuttleworth.

not necessarily, we are discussing the issue of comparing slackware and salix to debian and ubuntu in a "comparison of linux distributions" sense. If we were to bring mr Shuttleworth into the discussion, we'll have to bring Patrick Volkerding and the current Debian developer leader (I don't know it is right now) and gapan too[1], and then we could have a "the man and ideas behind X distro" kind of conversation.
so in all fairness I think is kind of gratuitous to bring mark shuttlework's name just because we are talking about ubuntu and then leave it at that.

[1]: I assume that gapan is the dev team leader and use that assumption to make my point clear

You are absolutely right, the community behind a distribution defines it. Same opinion here also.

Duncan_Idaho wrote:so in all fairness I think is kind of gratuitous to bring mark shuttlework's name just because we are talking about ubuntu and then leave it at that.

Akuna wrote:Yet the question must have some merit since this is not the first time I heard this analogy, therefore it is important to give some real explanation as to why it is not really so & why we do not find it actually desirable.

Because Slackware is so different to Debian. So how could a Slackware based distribution be similiar to a Debian based?

Duncan_Idaho wrote:in all fairness I think is kind of gratuitous to bring mark shuttlework's name just because we are talking about ubuntu and then leave it at that.

It definitely is not an obligation, but why not? If there was anything relevant you cared to say about Patrick, Tom, Dick or Harry, I fail to see why you couldn't.

thenktor wrote:Because Slackware is so different to Debian. So how could a Slackware based distribution be similiar to a Debian based?

I totally agree, of course it is totally different under the hood, however usually whenever this point is raised, it has nothing to do with the architecture underneath rather it usually is in relation with the user-friendly philosophy.

Again, saying this does not mean I agree with it nor do I necessarily think it is desirable, but I don't think it is such a terrible anathema either. Ubuntu & Mark Shuttleworth are not Hell & the devil personified. No need to spit on the ground whenever those names are mentioned in a conversation as some do.

Let me be quick to add that of course, no one here did that. The reason I made that little crack is to distance ourselves from those who do.

To conclude, that recurring analogy between SalixOs & Ubuntu deserves some thoughtful & articulate answers as to why we think it is not really so. And it is nice that almost everyone has now contributed logical rather than gut answers on the subject.

I totally agree with akuna.
And I respect Ubuntu and all the guys behind it for all the work given to the OpenSource community.

Salix is made by Slackware lovers who want that GNU/Linux users see that it is the best GNU/Linux O.S., isn't it ?
So, in order to do that if we could help a little with some easy to use admin system tools, dependancy support, liveCD, Graphical install, ..., and then push more people wanting to test and use it, you know what ... I will be happy

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I have no problem with Ubuntu or someone comparing Salix with Ubuntu, but I've stated more than once in the forum that Salix is not Ubuntu. So we won't do this or that just because it's done this way in Ubuntu

thenktor wrote:So we won't do this or that just because it's done this way in Ubuntu

I hope so

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Interesting comments that show once again that the comparisons are hate. JRD Understood well wanted to it say: "Salix brings easy configuration to Slackware the same way Ubuntu brings it to Debian". But it is not the comparison the best way to express it.
SalixOS Has gone back very popular because it is very accessible and here is one of his values, because of the contrary Slackware would continue being elitist.