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Re: Seperate Home Partition

Posted: 11. Dec 2015, 15:35
by djemos
sli is a front end of slackware-live. My mistake. Install also slackware-live-0.4.5
And then do the installation for salix-live-14.1 xfce.
The mate live 14.1 iso includes the new sli installer and updated slackware-live scripts 0.4.5

Re: Seperate Home Partition

Posted: 11. Dec 2015, 19:12
by ExMachina
Looks like I'm on for another try then :)
I'll let you know how it works out. Thank you!

Re: Seperate Home Partition

Posted: 12. Dec 2015, 01:03
by westms
ExMachina wrote:Thank you gapan!

Oh man, it would be wonderful if that would work! I've installed Salix live xfce64bit version since it's the only one that would actually work on my laptop. Probably because it has eLILO instead of LILO.
It's a Thinkpad T420 to which I added a 30 Gig SSD for the system. With the normal version I've tried many times and always got boot issues. I even tried the latest Slackware live XFCE from Alien Bob... no go with that either... It halted before loading the live system.
Hello ExMachina,

Slackware live XFCE and Alien Bob can not help here.

The laptop Thinkpad T420 supports UEFI as well as the BIOS.

It looks as if you use UEFI. LILO can not do anything with UEFI. LILO is designed for use with BIOS and MBR. ELILO is the substitute which works with UEFI. GRUB 2 can do the work to. To use UEFI, there is also the UEFI Shell and the UEFI usage with efibootmgr. efibootmgr is part of Salix and installed (Salix Xfce 14.1 * ISO).

You can also switch to BIOS-use, then LILO works.

At least the huge Salix Linux kernels are configured and compiled with "CONFIG_EFI_STUB=y". So you should be able to do without special bootloader. Maybe someone here has experience and can report.

More information:
man efibootmgr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensibl ... face#Linux
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EF ... ng_EFISTUB

Also neither LILO nor GRUB have any idea what might be /home. It is therefore pointless to experiment with bootloaders. They only load programs.
ExMachina wrote:This Salix XFCE Live is the only one that works and if I can get the Home partition also set up on the other drive, I'm good to go...
See also my other message in this discussion.

Re: Seperate Home Partition

Posted: 12. Dec 2015, 01:17
by westms
pnbalaji wrote:Hi,

I have used Salix OS for a while and I liked it a lot. Switched over to Sabayon once my disk crashed. I now have /home in a separate partition since I don't have to re-download by Dropbox, Downloads, pictures etc. However, I tried to switch over to Salix last week, but I don't see an option in the one page installer to specify a separate partition for /home which is now a mandatory thing for me. The salix installer only allows me to specify the / (root) partition where Salix will be installed.
Hello everyone.

This is especially for pnbalaji and ExMachina.
pnbalaji wrote:Is it possible to specify a separate /home partition while installing Salix?
Yes, it is.

1. It's easy to use an installer, which takes /home in a separate partition into account.

I can not see any reason to install a Salix Live version to disk, although there is an ISO version. You simply install the ISO version, because it has an installer who can master the desired. One does not lose data if one is careful.

E.g .:
Salix Xfce 14.1 CD ISO (i686, 32-bit)
Salix64 Xfce 14.1 DVD ISO (x86_64, 64-bit)

The installers of the two releases allow to create any more partitions and to include existing partitions.

2. If, however, an already installed live version is to be maintained, then it is relatively easy to adapt this installation.

This requires mainly to adapt /etc/fstab from the real root partition. fstab gets one more entry that describes the seperate /home partition on its device. Also, the home directory must be removed from the real root partition, for example, by renaming. (eg /home to /oldhome) Because one you can not have two times /home. Data worthy of preservation from this /oldhome directory are then later moved into the separate /home partition. Then also this directory can be deleted.

If the second disk once previously contained a valid root partition, and the corresponding /etc/fstab yet exist, then relevant entries from this old fstab can be transferred into the new fstab in the real root partition and the device designations be adapted (eg /dev/sda3 to /dev/sdb3).

3. For both procedures (1. and 2.) one have to worry about the user and group ID numbers. Other distributions may use other ID numbers, as Salix does. Then they have to be adapted to the Salix ratios. chown (change owner and group file) will do this.

If you need more guidance, then ask for.

Good luck.

Re: Seperate Home Partition

Posted: 12. Dec 2015, 08:19
by ExMachina
For djemos:

It works!!! Installing both the latest sli and slackware-live-0.4.5 does the trick. I now have the separate /home partition on the other drive. Thanks a lot.

For westms:

Thanks for the detailed answer. Indeed Thinkpad T420 can operate both with legacy and UEFI Bios.
I can not see any reason to install a Salix Live version to disk, although there is an ISO version. You simply install the ISO version, because it has an installer who can master the desired. One does not lose data if one is careful.

E.g .:
Salix Xfce 14.1 CD ISO (i686, 32-bit)
Salix64 Xfce 14.1 DVD ISO (x86_64, 64-bit)

The installers of the two releases allow to create any more partitions and to include existing partitions.
Very true. The installer takes care of everything. It was the 1st thing I tried but after the install I got boot issues every time and could not use the system. I,ve tried installing LILO or no LILO, on master boot or not. with xfs or ext4 and all combinations in between. I got a variety of errors from read/checksum error to the amazing 99 99 99 99 :)
But the Salix XFCE live version worked out of the box and now I got the /home partition also on the other drive. I'm a happy camper!

If moving /home partition wasn't possible I suppose the only alternative was messing with fstab and manually make the changes like you suggested. Still, my confidence level is not yet that high to pull this off and I wouldn't venture there all by myself.

Thank you guys for the support!

Re: Seperate Home Partition

Posted: 12. Dec 2015, 14:04
by pnbalaji
Yes, salix forums is one of the most useful and I always get a reply whenever I needed some help. People here are very knowledgeable and prompt in responding.

Thanks,
Balaji.

Re: Seperate Home Partition

Posted: 28. Dec 2015, 05:06
by pnbalaji
Well, my linux mint cinnamon started acting weird after an update and I decided to come back to Salix.

I had the installer version of Salix 14.1 and installed Salix. The text version of the installer allows me to keep a separate home partition as I wanted to have. Did the following things after the install.

1. Removed WiCd and installed Network Manager. I need to connect to open-connect VPN which is not possible from WiCd.
2. Installed dkms and configured my TPLINK TL WN823N WiFi adapter which uses the rtl8192cu chipset.
2. Rewrote the /etc/fstab so that it mounts all my NTFS partitions with full read-write permissions.
3. Installed pcmanfm and made it as a default file manager. It is my preferred FM instead of Thunar.
4. Yet to install Dropbox. I know it will work, but did not get a chance to do that yet.
5. Installed Mozilla Thunderbird and Mozilla Firefox. Both was able to read the config from my home directory. I am able to read my work email with Mozilla Thunderbird with out any change.
6. I used to have synapse launcher in Linux Mint and it is very impressive. Is there a way to create a .txz package for this? I have already submitted a feature request in forums.

Thanks,
Balaji.