LiveCDs rant

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caieng
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LiveCDs rant

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Thanks for that, tried three times, and failed. Could not access the "startup guide", it did not appear.

Umm, for us octogenarians, you may wish to reconsider the REQUIREMENT, not option, to click (counterintuitively) TWICE on desktop icons, instead of the more reasonable, more logical, and more user friendly ONCE, as it ought to be.

In another fifty years, you will understand what I am trying to write. The hands become swollen, with arthritic damage, and the brain is not quite as sharp as it used to be, so those two "automatic" clicks of the mouse become an insurmountable obstacle.

What is that you hope to accomplish by imposing a REQUIREMENT to click twice?

a. show that you are a faithful Apple computer loyalist, who remembers fondly the early 1980's, when ALL mice had only ONE button, ergo, one was obliged to use a pattern, to signal the cpu (kind of like Paul Revere, before cellular telephones....)

or,

b. I dunno. I jus always done it that way. I didn know you could click only once.

Whichever choice is yours, it is the wrong one. Please change it, to allow SINGLE clicks at the start of business--> Those who insist on clicking twice will not suffer, while those impaired will at least be able to run the live CD. The cognoscenti will surely be skillful enough with the innards of Linux to modify the requirement to insist upon the user clicking twice, instead of the more intuitive once. That way they can enhance their infamous "security".

Apart from the nonsensical requirement to click twice, this distro is remarkably inscrutable for demanding that a user understand both the concept of login and password, together with the knowledge of both. This is a characteristic shared by some other distros, but not by any distro of significance. Probably the worst offender in this regard is PCLinuxOS, which places (correctly, from the illogical perspective of requiring both login and password to operate the cdrom) both login and passwords on the desktop, where they are visible to one and all.

But, if the login/password are so obvious, even a childish septuagenarian could install Salix. We wouldn't want that, now would we? (Plus, let us not forget all the pornographic stuff on this cdrom, which any child could access, if it became any easier to install....)

I will try again, now that you have revealed the secret passwords. Have any of you ever seen genuine BonSai? Ever been to Nippon, or ZhongGuo?

I urge you to think about the several thousand year old tradition of creating those gorgeous plants. Do you suppose that those folks engaged in that process are:

meticulous ?
careful ?
observant ?
planning ahead ?
thinking about interpretation ?

You bet. Does this suggest that before your next iteration, (and not one whole year later, as you proudly explain in your promo), some of the solutions to these issues will conform to the philosophy behind the proud tradition of the BonSai horticulturist?

I sincerely hope that your distro is not going to demand that a user employ n characters in creating the user id, or n characters for the password. (I haven't yet begun, but will, now that I know the secret password, so I will soon learn the answer to this question.)

That requirement, of course, would condemn this distro to the dustbin, along with MANY others, with a similarly stupid design. Let the user decide how many characters to use for his/her own login/password.

It is not YOUR computer. Let Salix permit the user to run his/her computer as the owner wishes. You wouldn't acquire a BonSai from someone who insisted on telling you what shape the plant would have to be, would you? Think about it. For whom is this OS intended?

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... nity-3180/


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@caieng
You seem to occasionally have a problem with your caps lock button. Please get a new keyboard, or people might think that you're actually rude.

Other than that, I find your rant completely uncalled for. If you don't like double clicking on icons, it probably takes about 4-5 seconds to find the relevant option in xfce settings and switch the whole thing to single click as you seemingly prefer. So, please do that. I personally think that single clicking to open files/folders is completely unintuitive. If you single click to open, how on earth do you select? You seem to have a problem with salix "forcing" you to use double click on you, but you'd rather accept forcing single click to open for everyone else. It's just a preference. Change it the way you want it and get over it.

As for the "secret" password as you're calling it, a look in the wiki (or even at the download page where you downloaded the salix iso from) would have been enough. Not to mention the fact that it was already mentioned in this very thread before your own post.

Finally, one of the freedoms that any linux distribution, including Salix, provides, is the option to not use it if you don't like it.
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Re: LiveCDs rant

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BTW, I split your rant to a separate topic. No need for this to be in the announcement section.
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Re: LiveCDs rant

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gapan, thanks for splitting this spam away.

FYI - IRC log of today.
<damNageHack> hi
<damNageHack> http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1275
<damNageHack> WTF??? :D :D
<laprjns> he's a pompous ass, see his post in zw forum also
<Borromini> who dat
* Borromini hat die Verbindung getrennt (Quit: Lost terminal)
<laprjns> damNageHack: caieng's mo, apparently, is to test various distro and provide feedback which is viewed as rude by many, google caieng
<laprjns> he (?) just earned himself a two week ban from TinyMe forum
<damNageHack> lol
<laprjns> http://tinymelinux.com/forum/thread-799 ... ml#pid4015
<damNageHack> okay, i will consider it as spam then
<damNageHack> thanks
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Re: LiveCDs rant

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Wow... Now that is what I would call rude & callous! :shock:

You seem to be so full of hate & bitterness... What's wrong? Live didn't treat you right so now you have to take it on everybody else so they can share your misery?

Please, do throw our LiveCD in the dustbin as you 'threaten' (oooh... so scary!) & do pass your way & go bug somebody else somewhere else.

Unless you are not who you say you are & you are just wanting to have a little 'fun' ?
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Re: LiveCDs rant

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:shock: Just don't get him (?) started on why passwords and seperation of user and root access levels are archaic and unnecessary, and how you have no right to force him to use such silly things.

:( and I thought I was getting away from him....

Paul.
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