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The means overcome the end

Posted: 16. May 2011, 07:37
by cjtron
could you possibly do 3 things,,,

1, why not install midori by default instead of firefox ,,,,
2. divx browser playback?
3 13.37 lxde/openbox/fluxbox versions plz..

Lastly, could you default the font rendering better quality by default ..... please :mrgreen:

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 16. May 2011, 08:15
by thenktor
cjtron wrote:could you possibly do 3 things,,,

1, why not install midori by default instead of firefox ,,,,
2. divx browser playback?
3 13.37 lxde/openbox/fluxbox versions plz..

Lastly, could you default the font rendering better quality by default ..... please :mrgreen:
1. Most people prefer Firefox.
2. This requires another media player (Totem, VLC) and IMHO most time it sucks anyway.
3. Will be released in the future. Until then: slapt-get -i openbox :P

My font rendering is great.

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 16. May 2011, 09:48
by cjtron
Ok, I agree, except the font rendering...

Its not so great... vs ubuntu's
as said before..

Dont take it the wrong way...

But I love salix ! Thanx for also the help, always delivered :)

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 16. May 2011, 10:31
by thenktor
cjtron wrote: Its not so great... vs ubuntu's
as said before..
We had another thread about it. Maybe I don't use the standard settings, but at least on my KDE system the rendering is superb :)

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 16. May 2011, 11:16
by mimosa
font rendering
Yes, it's really puzzling that a few people (well, two so far who've mentioned it, I think) have a problem with this. Most users appear to find the quality excellent. Could it be something to do with screen type or size? Mine are middling-to-large Samsung LCDs. When I installed Arch (with Gnome) the quality (font rendering) was so bad I never used it much, even after all the hours of tinkering it had taken :evil: , so I certainly sympathise.

Or maybe the video card?

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 16. May 2011, 19:02
by Arael
mimosa wrote: Or maybe the video card?
I don't think it is the video card. My guess is that KDE (and perhaps XFCE too) has his own ways to improve the sharpness of the fonts. Those of you that are using KDE should try to start just a window manager and see if there are differences. I'm using openbox as a matter of fact.

I had to recompile some packages and had to apply ubuntu patches to obtain a decent font sharpness. I got the paches for the AUR. I must admit that the default font rendering is not good. At least not as good as it is on other distributions I used. I always had this problem with Slackware and mostly this is due to the Patrick's decision to not infringe patents. Nowadays some of these patents have expired so enabling then by default wouldn't be such a bad idea. Just my two cents. I don't mind recompiling a couple of packages.

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 16. May 2011, 22:25
by thenktor
I have to admit that fonts in dolphin really look a bit better than in thunar or pcmanfm. I'm not sure about my Firefox in Openbox. It seems to have the same look like dolphin and I'm sure it's much better than Firefox on OpenSuse 11.2 that I'm using at work.

EDIT: I'm using the Dejavu fonts in Firefox.

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 18. May 2011, 09:38
by gatewayasteroid
thenktor wrote:
cjtron wrote: Its not so great... vs ubuntu's
as said before..
We had another thread about it. Maybe I don't use the standard settings, but at least on my KDE system the rendering is superb :)
Yes, KDE and QT apps have great font quality. But not GTK ones :(

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 19. May 2011, 03:41
by Antid Oto
To solve the little problem with the fonts (in GTK environment), simply look at the file "CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT" from Slackware. The solution offered is:
The (formerly) patented bytecode interpreter is now enabled in the freetype
package, so your fonts might look a bit different. If this is undesirable,
you can restore the previous default with this line:
# ln -s ../conf.avail/10-autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/
I hope you work the tip. ;)

Re: The means overcome the end

Posted: 19. May 2011, 07:09
by gatewayasteroid
Antid Oto wrote:To solve the little problem with the fonts (in GTK environment), simply look at the file "CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT" from Slackware. The solution offered is:
The (formerly) patented bytecode interpreter is now enabled in the freetype
package, so your fonts might look a bit different. If this is undesirable,
you can restore the previous default with this line:
# ln -s ../conf.avail/10-autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/
I hope you work the tip. ;)
I already did it in a similar way, with my ~/.fonts.conf

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<edit mode="assign" name="autohint"><bool>true</bool></edit> <!-- Autohinter -->
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting"><bool>false</bool></edit> <!-- Byte-Code -->
with no luck.

Ubuntu and other distros apply some patches to cairo as far as I understood. That's the key.