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Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 17. Aug 2011, 11:52
by zAchAry
Which one do you like more, which one is more efficient? (Which one is better, advantages vs. disadvantages)
So far, it seems to me that
gst123 is much better that
Yauap since gst123 can handle video files too and it can handle Internet streams, unlike Yauap which doesn't even handle raw files (i.e.
http://www.salixos.org/audio.ogg).
On the other hand, Yauap seem to consume less resources that gst123 and it is displaying the metadata (tags, genre, year etc.) which can be beneficial sometimes.
Overhaul, I think that both of these players are inefficient.
Mocp and
Cmus take between 2 - 4 MB (maximum 5 MB) whilst gst123 and Yauap take between 7 - 12 MB (it is rare for these two to consume ~5 MB).
I do not have much experience with MPlayer, so please feel free to write down your opinion

Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 17. Aug 2011, 12:12
by thenktor
On command line I'm using MPlayer and I don't care about RAM or CPU usage

Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 17. Aug 2011, 12:25
by zAchAry
LOL

Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 18. Aug 2011, 11:57
by gapan
Use the one you like most. It shouldn't make much difference anyway. gst123 and mplayer will both play virtually any format. I wouldn't worry about RAM consumption that much. Unless you're running a PC with 32MB or 64MB of RAM, 7-12MB is not much difference compared to 4-5MB.
Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 18. Aug 2011, 14:31
by thenktor
Exactly. Why should I bother about CPU/RAM usage on a today's standard desktop PC with dual/quad core and 4 GB RAM? Even on my old netbook with 1 GB RAM it doesn't matter

Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 24. Aug 2011, 15:24
by zAchAry
I LOVE applications that are taking very low resources like
Claws Mail,
mtPaint (it would have been better if these would have used the full toolkit (i.e. Icons)),
µTorrent (the early versions were better)
Notepad2 (which is dwarfing Leafpad and Mousepad with very low memory fingerprint and syntax-highlighting).
Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 24. Aug 2011, 16:12
by Robin
I don't worry much about RAM and CPU usage either, and I have only 512 RAM and an old Celeron processor. I like the lightweight apps for their simplicity more than for their speed, and I notice very little difference in performance between LXDE and Xfce on this machine, as well as between "heavy" applications like Firefox and "light" ones like Midori.
I didn't care for the LXDE interface much, and just installed Xfce and dumped LXDE (except for PCManFM - I like that file manager). I find no perceptible difference in speed and responsiveness between them.
I'm dual-booting SalixOS and Xubuntu for comparison, and because I want to learn "more Linux" than just the Ubuntu/Debian flavor. There are a few very striking differences between them! SalixOS only wants me to run one application at a time. If I open even a terminal window while I have the browser running, the second application simply locks up and won't respond until I close the other. On Xubu I can effortlessly multi-task. I'm trying to find out why that is.
The other differences have to do with "polish" and style; just cosmetic stuff mostly, and more up-to-date versions of some applications in one distro than in the other, but that doesn't bother me a bit. I'm looking for long-term stability more than bling and having the latest versions of everything.
Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 24. Aug 2011, 20:57
by gapan
Robin wrote:SalixOS only wants me to run one application at a time. If I open even a terminal window while I have the browser running, the second application simply locks up and won't respond until I close the other.
That doesn't make sense.
Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 24. Aug 2011, 21:20
by mimosa
I like mplayer because it does so much; ninety-nine percent of which I don't even understand, but I could find out if I needed to. So it's only natural it takes up a certain amount of room.
*However*, it doesn't play ape files. Perhaps it would work to convert them to .wav using mac and pipe the result to mplayer ...
As Thenktor told me a while back, you can even use it to watch video in ASCII format
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2054&p=13091&hilit ... yer#p13091
@Robin It sounds as though something is wrong with your Salix installation. It shouldn't do that. Maybe low RAM could explain it, but not if Xubuntu can cope with similar usage on the same machine. I'd expect Salix to be more efficient.
Re: Yauap vs. gst123 vs. MPlayer (Command line)
Posted: 25. Aug 2011, 01:26
by Robin
gapan wrote:Robin wrote:SalixOS only wants me to run one application at a time. If I open even a terminal window while I have the browser running, the second application simply locks up and won't respond until I close the other.
That doesn't make sense.
You're right, it doesn't make any sense at all. I should be able to open a terminal while I still have the browser open or a document open that I want to copy-and-paste into the terminal from. But the minute I start a second application, it locks up and won't respond.
I ended up
writing down the commands I wanted to put in the terminal and closing the Startup Guide document before I could get the terminal to let me input any commands.
It acted as if something was eating up all the processing power and RAM merely by opening the terminal.
So I guess I'm done with SalixOS. No big deal, there was really no way to check hardware compatibility other than to install it and try it out. What's strange is that it ran really well from the LiveCD! Installed, however, it locked up and would run only one application at a time.
Very strange.
Perhaps I messed something up when I installed Xfce and removed LXDE. I will try it again when the 13.37 Xfce LiveCD is ready.