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Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 07:58
by jsfarinet
Not without any pain, but in the end sucessfully, i changed over from a Debian testing setup (i was used to used long time) to Salix (fluxbox). On the Debian setup i had practically a "re-build" of the openbox based crunchbang setup i would like to "translate" as far as possible to Salix now.

In this some questions that came up first hand to my mind:

Do Ceni, inxi, lxappearance exist in the Salix world? Or at least could it be added and then added to the repositories?

Menumaker (mmaker - a python script i got from the ArchLinux sources) i think that could be used without any major problem.

Substitute PCManFM by Thunar will work as well, i think.

Could i use Iceweasel and Icedove? And would it be possible to add the related repositories to the (G)slapt repositories?

That's it for the moment ... ;)

Thanks in advance for your patience!

[EDIT]Small add-on: PCManFM does not mount attached usb devices. They are shown in Devices but i cannot access them - on the fly. Is there missing some software?[/EDIT]

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 08:35
by mimosa
Welcome! Please have a look at the Salix Sartup Guide (link on homepage)

Some of the applicaitons you mention are available in the repositories or using Sourcery (q.v.).


Adding third party repositories is not recommended except for quite experienced users. I never have, myself.

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 09:40
by gapan
Hi jsfarinet, welcome to the Salix forums.
jsfarinet wrote:Do Ceni, inxi, lxappearance exist in the Salix world? Or at least could it be added and then added to the repositories?
As mimosa noted, make sure you read the startup guide, especially the part about package management. These are the questions you should be asking the package manager about, not in the forums.
jsfarinet wrote:Menumaker (mmaker - a python script i got from the ArchLinux sources) i think that could be used without any major problem.
I have to ask: why do you think you need this?
jsfarinet wrote:Substitute PCManFM by Thunar will work as well, i think.
As long as you don't mind installing the extra xfce dependencies thunar needs, sure it will work fine.
jsfarinet wrote:Could i use Iceweasel and Icedove?
Why? Have you got anything against the Firefox and Thunderbird names?
jsfarinet wrote:And would it be possible to add the related repositories to the (G)slapt repositories?
What repositories?
jsfarinet wrote:[EDIT]Small add-on: PCManFM does not mount attached usb devices. They are shown in Devices but i cannot access them - on the fly. Is there missing some software?[/EDIT]
No. That is not a problem with a fresh installation. What do you mean exactly by "They are shown in Devices but i cannot access them - on the fly"? Is the device mounted or not?

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 11:13
by jsfarinet
First of all, thanks for your patience! :D
gapan wrote:Hi jsfarinet, welcome to the Salix forums.
jsfarinet wrote:Do Ceni, inxi, lxappearance exist in the Salix world? Or at least could it be added and then added to the repositories?
As mimosa noted, make sure you read the startup guide, especially the part about package management. These are the questions you should be asking the package manager about, not in the forums.
In "my" debian world, i could set many (not all) fluxbox settings via lxappearance. I saw there is in Sourcery a package"lxappearance-obconf" but it cannot install it because of missing dependencies.
gapan wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:Menumaker (mmaker - a python script i got from the ArchLinux sources) i think that could be used without any major problem.
I have to ask: why do you think you need this?
Because it simply makes the best Fluxbox menu i'm aware of (if you'd like i could show you a screenshot (?) ).

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gapan wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:And would it be possible to add the related repositories to the (G)slapt repositories?
What repositories?
In Debian i had some for inxi, ceni, and the iceweasel/icedove testing versions.
gapan wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:[EDIT]Small add-on: PCManFM does not mount attached usb devices. They are shown in Devices but i cannot access them - on the fly. Is there missing some software?[/EDIT]
No. That is not a problem with a fresh installation. What do you mean exactly by "They are shown in Devices but i cannot access them - on the fly"? Is the device mounted or not?
PcManFM recognizes there is a usb stick, but cannot mount it (it says "computer:///<name of the stick> is not valid"). Thunar OTOH does, but does not display the stick (which is labeld as "SALIX-INSTALLER") as a drive but as a folder (ok, that's a minor problem, one could live with that ;) ).

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 11:32
by gapan
jsfarinet wrote:In "my" debian world, i could set many (not all) fluxbox settings via lxappearance. I saw there is in Sourcery a package"lxappearance-obconf" but it cannot install it because of missing dependencies.
I'm not doubting the usefulness of lxappearance. That's why it's installed by default in fluxbox installations. Including yours, unless you removed it on purpose.

Again: read the package management section in the startup guide.
jsfarinet wrote:Because it simply makes the best Fluxbox menu i'm aware of (if you'd like i could show you a screenshot (?) ).
Please do, but I wonder what's "better" than the menu you already have?
jsfarinet wrote:In Debian i had some for inxi, ceni, and the iceweasel/icedove testing versions.
Salix is not debian. Again: what repositories?
jsfarinet wrote:PcManFM recognizes there is a usb stick, but cannot mount it (it says "computer:///<name of the stick> is not valid"). Thunar OTOH does, but does not display the stick (which is labeld as "SALIX-INSTALLER") as a drive but as a folder (ok, that's a minor problem, one could live with that ;) ).
Are you sure that isn't a problem with this specific usb stick? How is it formatted? What kind of partitions does it have?

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 16:15
by jsfarinet
gapan wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:In "my" debian world, i could set many (not all) fluxbox settings via lxappearance. I saw there is in Sourcery a package"lxappearance-obconf" but it cannot install it because of missing dependencies.
I'm not doubting the usefulness of lxappearance. That's why it's installed by default in fluxbox installations. Including yours, unless you removed it on purpose.

Again: read the package management section in the startup guide.
Shame on me :-( Found it ... ;)

As for packagemanagement: I tried to install the slackware software of SpiderOak but the installation failed:

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root[Downloads]# spkg SpiderOak-5.1.8-x86_64-1.tgz
Installing package SpiderOak-5.1.8-x86_64-1...
ERROR: can't open file for writing: No such file or directory
ERROR: error thrown
ERROR: Failed to extract file opt/SpiderOak/lib/plugins/systemtrayicon/libsni-qt.so.
ERROR: Package installation failed!
Is there something i can do? Eventually install manually (and if so how)?
gapan wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:Because it simply makes the best Fluxbox menu i'm aware of (if you'd like i could show you a screenshot (?) ).
Please do, but I wonder what's "better" than the menu you already have?
Is there a way to upload/attach binaries to the forum
gapan wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:In Debian i had some for inxi, ceni, and the iceweasel/icedove testing versions.
Salix is not debian. Again: what repositories?
That's clear (and the reason why i came over ;) ). Anyway i'll look into it closer and will turn back eventually.
gapan wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:PcManFM recognizes there is a usb stick, but cannot mount it (it says "computer:///<name of the stick> is not valid"). Thunar OTOH does, but does not display the stick (which is labeld as "SALIX-INSTALLER") as a drive but as a folder (ok, that's a minor problem, one could live with that ;) ).
Are you sure that isn't a problem with this specific usb stick? How is it formatted? What kind of partitions does it have?
You were right. Now all seems to work as expected. I'm wondering if this might be due to the fact the stick was attached during the boot process ...

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 17:03
by gapan
jsfarinet wrote:As for packagemanagement: I tried to install the slackware software of SpiderOak but the installation failed:

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root[Downloads]# spkg SpiderOak-5.1.8-x86_64-1.tgz
Installing package SpiderOak-5.1.8-x86_64-1...
ERROR: can't open file for writing: No such file or directory
ERROR: error thrown
ERROR: Failed to extract file opt/SpiderOak/lib/plugins/systemtrayicon/libsni-qt.so.
ERROR: Package installation failed!
Is there something i can do? Eventually install manually (and if so how)?
Leaving aside the fact that I know nothing about what spideroak is and where you got that package from, which you should have mentioned, and unless the package itself is corrupt in some way (improper packaging maybe), I would say that you have a bad download.
gapan wrote:Is there a way to upload/attach binaries to the forum
No, use an image hosting site.

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 17:55
by laprjns
It's a commercial cloud service. SpiderOak has pre-built packages, including Slackware packages, on their site. I downloaded the 64bit slackware package, installed it using spkg and was able to start it up without problems. So for you it probably is a bad download.Image

Re: Totally new to Salix

Posted: 23. Nov 2014, 23:27
by jsfarinet
Correct. I did new download and now it worked. Thanks to you both!