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a usb stick not detected

Posted: 11. Jan 2015, 22:58
by jsfarinet
i've one specific usb stick which is not detected. Neither in Thunar nor by gparted. Any idea what i could do here?

lsusb shows it as:

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Bus 003 Device 009: ID 048d:1168 Integrated Technology Express, Inc.
So, in some way, i presume, it exists (and hopefully it is not broken), but i've no idea how to get it usable.

TIA

PS. With other usb sticks all works fine.

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 12. Jan 2015, 01:45
by laprjns
Looks to me like its a bad stick. Does it work on other computers?

(moving this topic to Misc, since is is not a Salix problem)

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 12. Jan 2015, 03:25
by westms
jsfarinet wrote:i've one specific usb stick which is not detected. Neither in Thunar nor by gparted. Any idea what i could do here?

lsusb shows it as:

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Bus 003 Device 009: ID 048d:1168 Integrated Technology Express, Inc.
So, in some way, i presume, it exists (and hopefully it is not broken), but i've no idea how to get it usable.

TIA

PS. With other usb sticks all works fine.
Your usb stick is not in the list of all known USB ID's. Does the stick ever worked with other distributions? I updated the list on my system, but your drive is not included too. Maybe you are generating a new entry by hand and see if it works with it (/usr/share/hwdata/usb.ids).

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 12. Jan 2015, 07:10
by jsfarinet
laprjns wrote:Looks to me like its a bad stick. Does it work on other computers?

(moving this topic to Misc, since is is not a Salix problem)
Correct. Sorry ...

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 12. Jan 2015, 07:24
by jsfarinet
westms wrote:
jsfarinet wrote:i've one specific usb stick which is not detected. Neither in Thunar nor by gparted. Any idea what i could do here?

lsusb shows it as:

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Bus 003 Device 009: ID 048d:1168 Integrated Technology Express, Inc.
So, in some way, i presume, it exists (and hopefully it is not broken), but i've no idea how to get it usable.

TIA

PS. With other usb sticks all works fine.
Your usb stick is not in the list of all known USB ID's. Does the stick ever worked with other distributions? I updated the list on my system, but your drive is not included too. Maybe you are generating a new entry by hand and see if it works with it (/usr/share/hwdata/usb.ids).
Yes, it worked either with lubuntu, debian and on a mac as well. 'usb-devices' tells me this:

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T:  Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#=  9 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=048d ProdID=1168 Rev=01.00
C:  #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=98mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
I found exact my stick here: http://usb-fix.blogspot.de/p/usbest_03.html

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 IT1168 DtMPTool V1.68.1.0  
Utility to restore the USB Flash controllers ITE IT1168 production ITE. 
possible approaches for similar USBest. 
To work correctly, the utility must: 1. Windows XP Pro SP3 2. Control Panel - Regional and Language Options, change the language to U.S. English! Retrieved on flash: Vid Pid = 1307 = 0100 Vid = 048D Pid = 1168 
The on the stick printed brand is: "mistral 16 GB by CnMemory". And it is/was a nice fast stick . . .

For what i found there seem to be only windows tools to repair it . . . (?)

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 12. Jan 2015, 21:53
by westms
jsfarinet wrote:Yes, it worked either with lubuntu, debian and on a mac as well. 'usb-devices' tells me this:

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T:  Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#=  9 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=048d ProdID=1168 Rev=01.00
C:  #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=98mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
Does this stick still work with these operating systems?
I found exact my stick here: http://usb-fix.blogspot.de/p/usbest_03.html

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 IT1168 DtMPTool V1.68.1.0  
Utility to restore the USB Flash controllers ITE IT1168 production ITE. 
possible approaches for similar USBest. 
To work correctly, the utility must: 1. Windows XP Pro SP3 2. Control Panel - Regional and Language Options, change the language to U.S. English! Retrieved on flash: Vid Pid = 1307 = 0100 Vid = 048D Pid = 1168 
The on the stick printed brand is: "mistral 16 GB by CnMemory". And it is/was a nice fast stick . . .
I own sticks with brand CnMemory too. All prints are SpaceloopXL by CnMemory.
CnMemory is only a reseller. The vendor known by lsusb is Alcor Micro Corp. in my cases.

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[~]$ lsusb
Protocol spec without prior Class and Subclass spec at line 17398
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 058f:6387 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Drive
For what i found there seem to be only windows tools to repair it . . . (?)
I have no idea about this.

One of my SpaceloopXL I accidentally dropped from 10 cm high, on a wooden tabletop. That was it. The stick was detected after this and was very very fast. I have not taken enough time and tryed to repair the file system. Did not help. Later, I re-soldered all the solder joints. Now the stick is working again. Due to the ill-considered attempts to repair I have lost many collected configuration data and examples.

The file /usr/share/hwdata/usb.ids contains the vendor id but not the device id of your stick. Try to make it known with an entry with the Device ID to your stick.

Addendum:
The program call lsusb -D, z.B. lsusb -D /dev/bus/usb/002/001 with the assignments Bus 002, Device 001 reads the data directly from the chip of the device. If that works, at least the interface of the device and parts of the controller chip are intact.

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 13. Jan 2015, 01:23
by Atip
Had once a problem like this. Used KNOPPIX to fix it and I am using
it ever since w/o problem. I think I did post it in this forum.

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 13. Jan 2015, 15:44
by laprjns
Atip wrote:Had once a problem like this. Used KNOPPIX to fix it and I am using
it ever since w/o problem. I think I did post it in this forum.
You did,
http://forum.salixos.org/viewtopic.php? ... pix#p35676

But the difference is that your strick was recongized by gparted and fdisk, jsfarinet stick isn't.

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 14. Jan 2015, 01:55
by westms
Atip wrote:Had once a problem like this. Used KNOPPIX to fix it and I am using
it ever since w/o problem. I think I did post it in this forum.
Knoppix is ​​generally a good choice if the hardware detection needs to be above average.

Re: a usb stick not detected

Posted: 17. Jan 2015, 01:47
by Atip
Just curious does

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fdisk /dev/sr*
detect the stick?

I just had a stick which gave boot error on booting and
was able to fix it by deleting all with fdisk and then formating
with gparted.