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Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 2. Apr 2010, 17:26
by hc.e
After installing the nvidia-driver should I exclude in /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc for a fool-proof system?
And what has to be excluded?

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 2. Apr 2010, 19:33
by JRD
Let me explain something firstly : slapt-get/Gslapt handles packages.
The proprietary nvidia driver (I think you speak about it) is not in a package, just some files installed in the system. So this will not be handle by any package manager.
If you update your system deeply (for example if you change the kernel) you need to recompile these drivers by yourself.

Is it a bit more clear now ?

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 12:12
by hc.e
But what about if there is a new xserver, shouldn't I first remove the nvidia-driver, before installing it.
To avoid this to happen, I thought about excluding everything starting whit xorg and xserver, like the kernel and other thinks that are already excluded. Like ^kernel-.* and others.

This is the computer from my nephews. They know how to click on the update-notifier, but not about the rest behind it.

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 13:12
by thenktor
AFAIK you have to reinstall the nvidia driver after updating kernel, xorg-server and mesa.
If you don't want this to happen you have to exclude these packages in slapt-getrc.

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 14:19
by gapan
thenktor wrote:AFAIK you have to reinstall the nvidia driver after updating kernel, xorg-server and mesa.
But any of those will happen only if you're upgrading to a new Salix/Slackware version. So, in my opinion, no, you should not blacklist any of the xorg packages.

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 16:05
by thenktor
gapan wrote:
thenktor wrote:AFAIK you have to reinstall the nvidia driver after updating kernel, xorg-server and mesa.
But any of those will happen only if you're upgrading to a new Salix/Slackware version. So, in my opinion, no, you should not blacklist any of the xorg packages.
Or if there is a security fix :P :mrgreen:

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 16:06
by gapan
thenktor wrote:Or if there is a security fix :P :mrgreen:
Security fixes are usually applied as patches to the existing versions, so no danger upgrading there.

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 16:08
by thenktor
AFAIK the nvidia driver overwrites some files of mesa, so any upgrade or reinstall of the mesa package will break opengl acceleration of the nvidia driver.

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 16:21
by gapan
I wouldn't know, no nvidia here :twisted:

Re: Should I exclude in slapt-getrc?

Posted: 3. Apr 2010, 18:52
by JRD
thenktor wrote:AFAIK the nvidia driver overwrites some files of mesa, so any upgrade or reinstall of the mesa package will break opengl acceleration of the nvidia driver.
No at all.
ATI do it, but not nvidia.
The nvidia driver consist only of a module for the kernel and a driver for Xorg, that's all.