Salix Xfce 15.0beta1

[sjox]

Hi!

I think I could find an error?
MPV (and Mplayer), Parole but also FFmpeg(!) can not display or convert videos, created with the AV1 codec!

I have installed "aom" and "dav1d" - but this has shown no effect...
Salix multimedia codecs were of course also installed!
Were possibly these programs compiled without this AV1 codec?

@gapan:
Thanks for the tip with QPDF - I did not know that!

[SalixManiac]

Bonjour sjox,

It is not a salix error, all these codecs are deactivated in the Slackware 15.0 FFMPEG build currently

libx264="" ; [ "${X264:-no}" != "no" ] && libx264="--enable-libx264"
libcelt="" ; [ "${CELT:-no}" != "no" ] && libcelt="--enable-libcelt"
libdc1394="" ; [ "${DC1394:-no}" != "no" ] && libdc1394="--enable-libdc1394"
libgsm="" ; [ "${GSM:-no}" != "no" ] && libgsm="--enable-libgsm"
librtmp="" ; [ "${RTMP:-no}" != "no" ] && librtmp="--enable-librtmp"
libxvid="" ; [ "${XVID:-no}" != "no" ] && libxvid="--enable-libxvid"
libass="" ; [ "${ASS:-no}" != "no" ] && libass="--enable-libass"
libiec61883=""; [ "${IEC61883:-no}" != "no" ] && libiec61883="--enable-libiec61883"
libilbc="" ; [ "${ILBC:-no}" != "no" ] && libilbc="--enable-libilbc"
libmodplug="" ; [ "${MODPLUG:-no}" != "no" ] && libmodplug="--enable-libmodplug"
libtwolame="" ; [ "${TWOLAME:-no}" != "no" ] && libtwolame="--enable-libtwolame"
ladspa="" ; [ "${LADSPA:-no}" != "no" ] && ladspa="--enable-ladspa"
libflite="" ; [ "${FLITE:-no}" != "no" ] && libflite="--enable-libflite"
libx265="" ; [ "${X265:-no}" != "no" ] && libx265="--enable-libx265"
libzvbi="" ; [ "${ZVBI:-no}" != "no" ] && libzvbi="--enable-libzvbi"
libopencv="" ; [ "${OPENCV:-no}" != "no" ] && libopencv="--enable-libopencv"
libgme="" ; [ "${GME:-no}" != "no" ] && libgme="--enable-libgme"
libsnappy="" ; [ "${SNAPPY:-no}" != "no" ] && libsnappy="--enable-libsnappy"
libzmq="" ; [ "${ZMQ:-no}" != "no" ] && libzmq="--enable-libzmq"
libbs2b="" ; [ "${BS2B:-no}" != "no" ] && libbs2b="--enable-libbs2b"
rubberband="" ; [ "${RUBBERBAND:-no}" != "no" ] && rubberband="--enable-librubberband"
tesseract="" ; [ "${TESSERACT:-no}" != "no" ] && tesseract="--enable-libtesseract"
libjack="" ; [ "${JACK:-no}" != "no" ] && libjack="--enable-libjack"
libaom="" ; [ "${AOM:-no}" != "no" ] && libaom="--enable-libaom"
lv2="" ; [ "${LV2:-no}" != "no" ] && lv2="--enable-lv2"
libdav1d="" ; [ "${DAV1D:-no}" != "no" ] && libdav1d="--enable-libdav1d"
rabbitmq="" ; [ "${RABBITMQ:-no}" != "no" ] && rabbitmq="--enable-librabbitmq"
libcodec2="" ; [ "${CODEC2:-no}" != "no" ] && libcodec2="--enable-libcodec2"
libsoxr="" ; [ "${SOXR:-no}" != "no" ] && libsoxr="--enable-libsoxr"
libsrt="" ; [ "${SRT:-no}" != "no" ] && libsrt="--enable-libsrt"
libzimg="" ; [ "${ZIMG:-no}" != "no" ] && libzimg="--enable-libzimg"
chromaprint="" ; [ "${CHROMAPRINT:-no}" != "no" ] && chromaprint="--enable-chromaprint"
vapoursynth="" ; [ "${VAPOURSYNTH:-no}" != "no" ] && vapoursynth="--enable-vapoursynth"
opencore_amr="" ; [ "${OPENCORE:-no}" != "no" ] && \

[sjox]

Oh!
Then it is not a bug but a feature!
But why - AV1 is a free codec!

[gapan]

I think I could find an error?
MPV (and Mplayer), Parole but also FFmpeg(!) can not display or convert videos, created with the AV1 codec!

Yes, the ffmpeg package is now provided by slackware and is missing a lot of things that our own package included in previous releases. I'm thinking of ways to solve this, perhaps providing an alternative ffmpeg or a replacement ffmpeg package.

[mrstordal]

Hello! Awesome to see Salix going to 15.0! I am testing the 64bit iso, with an efi laptop.

I have tried to follow this: https://www.linuxquestions.org/question ... 175693980/ to see if I can get pipewire working. I notice that Salix is prepared to use Pipewire, and that 3 files in /etc/xdg/autostart just need renaming (correct me if I'm wrong) from filename.desktop.sample -> filename.desktop.

After following the descriptions from linuxquestions.org, pipewire doesn't appear to be running. I get this error message if I write "pipewire" in a terminal:

pipewire
[W][00809.753265] mod.rt | [ module-rt.c: 224 translate_error()] RTKit error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[W][00809.753326] mod.rt | [ module-rt.c: 526 set_nice()] could not set nice-level to -11: No such file or directory
[W][00809.753632] mod.rt | [ module-rt.c: 224 translate_error()] RTKit error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[W][00809.756528] mod.rt | [ module-rt.c: 224 translate_error()] RTKit error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[W][00809.756754] mod.rt | [ module-rt.c: 224 translate_error()] RTKit error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[W][00809.756769] mod.rt | [ module-rt.c: 716 impl_acquire_rt()] could not make thread 1904 realtime using RTKit: No such file or directory

If I write "pw-cli", I get an error that "host is down, failed to connect"

I have also removed pulseaudio.desktop from autostart, so I am without any sound now.

When I start Qtractor, I get a message that I need to start the jack server, just like the old days when I forgot to start jack first

Is there anything to "learn" from this?

Best regards, Steven

[gapan]

A note for everyone that installed the beta (or alpha). I have since upgraded the qogir-icon-theme package. However, the previous package had some issues which prevent a clean upgrade. So, what you should do is completely remove the package and install it from scratch:

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sudo spkg -d qogir-icon-theme
sudo slapt-get -i qogir-icon-theme

This is also the case if the package has already been upgraded to the latest version. Please remove it and install it from scratch.

[hugok]

I think I could find an error?
MPV (and Mplayer), Parole but also FFmpeg(!) can not display or convert videos, created with the AV1 codec!

Yes, the ffmpeg package is now provided by slackware and is missing a lot of things that our own package included in previous releases. I'm thinking of ways to solve this, perhaps providing an alternative ffmpeg or a replacement ffmpeg package.

And about AlienBob https://slackware.uk/people/alien/restr ... ds/ffmpeg/ package?

[missTell]

The default panel row size of 30, changed Web Browser icon to something that is hard to decipher. If you change the panel row size to 36, the Web Browser icon returns to what I consider normal. ("Xfce panel size" by EricC)

If it were only that one icon ...

The whole icon set would work fine if it were in Salix 15 Gnome, but since it is on Xfce, you get 'broken icon set' + 'broken Xfce'.

That Qogir icon set was made for Gnome 3x / 4x ...

Watch carefully what happens with the Web Browser and Network Manager icons here:

https://ibb.co/MCF4nSm
https://ibb.co/XZX0NyT
https://ibb.co/KXgBL5R
https://ibb.co/59QRspJ

Now, if one changed the icon set:

https://ibb.co/ZzdGx9v
https://ibb.co/8cHYHVP
https://ibb.co/54FfQGC
https://ibb.co/SdWb5CP
https://ibb.co/tc7KRpW
https://ibb.co/kQf8RhY

This second Newaita-Breeze icon also breaks past 48 Px taskbar height, but that's Xfce (extension) issue (that could be easily fixed).

However, it is much more consistent and by decreasing the panel height for only 1 Px, every user can 'fix' it, without fixing anything.

Additionally, Newaita has many different folder colors, and in combination with Adwaita Colors theme, users could get some colors.

In their gray lives, on their dull desktops ...

[missTell]

I'd say, that's how it should look like:

Login screen:

https://ibb.co/x62Pkt1

or better so:

https://ibb.co/q17DxtR

And the rest:

https://ibb.co/0FmrjF0
https://ibb.co/6D75zbM
https://ibb.co/J5WVx7L
https://ibb.co/6ZCs0m0
https://ibb.co/Yc4Hg4d
https://ibb.co/Rj66rLs
https://ibb.co/hgWbdkN
https://ibb.co/LNVvJhf
https://ibb.co/BGjKvFf
https://ibb.co/ypRRjT5
https://ibb.co/qnCRNLB

Well, more or less so ...

[missTell]

On a different note, we now have a new default icon theme and a new cursor theme, both coming from the Qogir project as well as a new Xfwm4 theme, specially made for Salix. [...] Opinions welcome.

1. There are many better cursor themes ...

My vote goes for Openzone.

2. New Xfwm4 theme, specially made for Salix ... has an issue ...

On the screenshot, one can clearly see the issue and what and where needs to be repaired.

https://ibb.co/fkzQ5RD

Apart from the color, which is a matter of taste (and doesn't really look appropriate), there is a 'form issue'.

Namely, start menu, elements on the taskbar etc. have rounded corners.

The default Salix theme has sharp square corners.

That feels ... not exactly right.

It should look so:

https://ibb.co/ySXKhr1

3. Light panel at the bottom is always wrong, despite of someone's taste, and those vertical gray lines ('spacer'), don't belong there.

Some applications need dark backgrounds (Darktable, GIMP, RawTherapee, Shotwell, Totem, VLC), some need light backgrounds (LibreOffice), and with some it doesn't matter and is solely a matter of taste.

The problem with a light taskbar is that it is very disturbing to have a 'wide white line' on the dark screen, whereas, it's never a problem to have a 'wide dark line' on a light screen -- it just makes the screen appear smaller, as the screen frame is also black (for a reason).

Those 'spacers' should be put on transparent.

4. Qogir icon set issue ...

On the following screenshots, one can see how the Qogir icon set is built and why it has an issue.

https://ibb.co/F6yzsBW
https://ibb.co/XCrQYLF
https://ibb.co/dGQ2VXR

As of the web browser icon, the file here could help to fix it, but it's not only that one single icon ...

https://gofile.io/d/zb8qSW

It should give you the following result (in range 28 - 47 Px):

https://ibb.co/BgY1hwN
https://ibb.co/zVRP4ZK
https://ibb.co/mJ1mX2G

5. This is how Salix default should approx. look like, if we keep the rest of the momentary configuration:

https://ibb.co/cLC2BY5
https://ibb.co/v1kvtqR

6. BTW ...

Some icons in the start menu will always look different, whatever icon set is set as default. It seems like they would be hard-coded, but didn't really check the source code.

Using Orage Clock would benefit the user / broken Xfce panel, as the Orage Clock integrates automatically and offers the possibility to set up the font size and change some other details, which the default Xfce clock is missing.

P.S.
I'll make some screenshots of 'colorful Salix' later. Not all possible ones, but only a few combinations, just to show how another icon set and theme would benefit (mainly young) users.