Smaller graphical install than basic on Eee PC 701.

[09groovy]

I just discovered nFluxOS: http://multidistro.com/

nFluxOS is a real fork of Slackware. They do some things very differently than the original Slackware way. SalixOS is the best (nearly 100%) compatible distribution, it also provides much extensions to Slackware. It is due that it is based on the original Slackware package repository, in contrast nFluxOS uses own packages also for the core.

but perhaps it could provide some inspiration for a mini footprint Salix OS version? There are both Ubuntu, Debian and Slackware based versions.

Hold on please. My plans are to create a Netinstall ISO (about 300 MB in size then), you could use it to install a minimal base system offline and then set your preferred desktop (Xfce, LXDE, KDE, etc.) on top with usage of meta-packages that will download additionally needed packages afterwards additionally from the server.
At the moment, I can only provide a very ugly hacked rudimentary ISO to install a minimal Xorg system without any desktop - a truncated "basic" system if so wanted to understand it.
Let me know if you are interested in that file, so I will share it.

[gapan]

Hold on please. My plans are to create a Netinstall ISO (about 300 MB in size then), you could use it to install a minimal base system offline and then set your preferred desktop (Xfce, LXDE, KDE, etc.) on top with usage of meta-packages that will download additionally needed packages afterwards additionally from the server.

How are you planning to do that? I would think 300MB seems too big for something like that.

At the moment, I can only provide a very ugly hacked rudimentary ISO to install a minimal Xorg system without any desktop - a truncated "basic" system if so wanted to understand it.
Let me know if you are interested in that file, so I will share it.

It never hurts to share.

[09groovy]

Sorry, but the idea behind is top secret for understandable reasons. Maybe a little surprise for X-Mas
I think the Xorg packages should be kept in the iso file due to most people would like to have at least Xorg running, independently what intention for the target system is planned.
This is the packages list so far. Versions should be of course adjusted to the most current ones.

a2ps-4.14-x86_64-4.txz
aaa_base-13.1-x86_64-2.txz
aaa_terminfo-5.7-noarch-1.txz
aalib-1.4rc5-x86_64-2.txz
acl-2.2.47_1-x86_64-1.txz
acpid-2.0.5-x86_64-1.txz
alsa-lib-1.0.23-x86_64-1.txz
alsa-oss-1.0.17-x86_64-1.txz
alsa-utils-1.0.23-x86_64-1.txz
appres-1.0.2-x86_64-1.txz
apr-1.3.9-x86_64-1.txz
apr-util-1.3.9-x86_64-2.txz
aspell-0.60.5-x86_64-2.txz
aspell-en-6.0_0-noarch-4.txz
at-3.1.10-x86_64-1.txz
atk-1.30.0-x86_64-1.txz
attr-2.4.43_1-x86_64-1.txz
audiofile-0.2.6-x86_64-2.txz
autoconf-2.65-noarch-1.txz
autofs-5.0.5-x86_64-1.txz
automake-1.11.1-noarch-1.txz
automoc4-0.9.88-x86_64-1.txz
bash-4.1.007-x86_64-1.txz
bdftopcf-1.0.2-x86_64-1.txz
bigreqsproto-1.1.0-noarch-1.txz
bin-11.1-x86_64-1.txz
binutils-2.20.51.0.8-x86_64-1.txz
bison-2.4.2-x86_64-1.txz
bridge-utils-1.2-x86_64-2.txz
bzip2-1.0.5-x86_64-1.txz
cairo-1.8.8-x86_64-3.txz
ccache-2.4-x86_64-1.txz
cdparanoia-III_10.2-x86_64-1.txz
cdrdao-1.2.1-x86_64-1.txz
cdrtools-2.01.01a78-x86_64-1.txz
cmake-2.8.1-x86_64-1.txz
compositeproto-0.4.1-noarch-1.txz
coreutils-8.5-x86_64-3.txz
cpio-2.9-x86_64-2.txz
cryptsetup-1.1.0-x86_64-2.txz
curl-7.20.1-x86_64-1.txz
cvs-1.11.23-x86_64-1.txz
cxxlibs-6.0.13-x86_64-2.txz
cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-x86_64-1.txz
damageproto-1.2.0-noarch-1.txz
db44-4.4.20-x86_64-2.txz
dbus-1.2.24-x86_64-2.txz
dbus-glib-0.86-x86_64-1.txz
dbus-python-0.83.1-x86_64-1.txz
dcron-4.4-x86_64-1.txz
dejavu-fonts-ttf-2.30-noarch-1.txz
desktop-file-utils-0.16-x86_64-2.txz
dev86-0.16.17-x86_64-2.txz
devs-2.3.1-noarch-25.txz
dhcpcd-5.2.2-x86_64-1.txz
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dmapi-2.2.10-x86_64-1.txz
dmidecode-2.10-x86_64-1.txz
dmxproto-2.3-noarch-1.txz
dosfstools-2.11-x86_64-1.txz
dotnew-0.6.1-noarch-1gv.txz
dri2proto-2.3-x86_64-1.txz
dvd+rw-tools-7.1-x86_64-1.txz
e2fsprogs-1.41.11-x86_64-1.txz
e_dbus-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
ecore-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
edje-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
eet-1.4.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
eeze-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
efreet-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
eggdbus-0.6-x86_64-1.txz
eina-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
eject-2.1.5-x86_64-2.txz
embryo-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
encodings-1.0.3-noarch-1.txz
enlightenment-0.16.999.52995-x86_64-1pw.txz
enscript-1.6.3-x86_64-1.txz
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ethtool-2.6.33-x86_64-1.txz
evas-1.0.0.beta-x86_64-1pw.txz
evieext-1.1.0-noarch-1.txz
expat-2.0.1-x86_64-1.txz
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flex-2.5.35-x86_64-1.txz
floppy-5.4-x86_64-3.txz
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font-bh-ttf-1.0.1-noarch-1.txz
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giflib-4.1.6-x86_64-1.txz
git-1.7.1-x86_64-1.txz
glew-1.5.1-x86_64-1.txz
glib2-2.22.5-x86_64-1.txz
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glproto-1.4.11-noarch-1.txz
gmime-2.4.15-x86_64-1.txz
gmm-3.1-noarch-1.txz
gmp-5.0.1-x86_64-1.txz
gnome-colors-icon-theme-5.5.1-noarch-1gv.txz
gnome-icon-theme-2.30.2-x86_64-1.txz
gnupg-1.4.10-x86_64-1.txz
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portmap-6.0-x86_64-1.txz
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rarian-0.8.1-x86_64-1gv.txz
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scripts-1.0.1-noarch-2.txz
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sip-4.10.2-x86_64-1.txz
slang-2.2.2-x86_64-1.txz
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[pwatk]

A netinstall iso is a brilliant idea but I agree with gapan that 300mb is too big.

IMO a netinstall iso should contain only what is required to download install the system. The only additional packages I would consider is the packages for a core install.

Finally, not everyone requires Xorg, what if your setting up a server for example?

[09groovy]

Finally, not everyone requires Xorg, what if your setting up a server for example?

That's exactly the main point that puzzles me.
EDIT
If the user downloads only a core installation in the first place and decides afterwards to install as well X, so the wizard has to download all needed X packages. That means some traffic could be saved while downloading for instance only the really required drivers for graphics. But as follows, we would have to provide a customized installation wizard that can handle all that stuff. It would be hard to support such a thing due to a lot of possible hardware configurations to consider about.

[pwatk]

It might be a good idea to setup dummy packages in the repo like ubuntu has (don't flame me just yet ) for each DE e.g. kde-desktop-i486-1, xfce-desktop-i486-1... etc.

As for only installing the required drivers for Xorg I can't really give you an answer to that one.

[09groovy]

The meta packages are the easiest thing. Just create some dep files, use depcheck and there you go.

[linus72]

Just a couple thoughts...

I'm the guy that makes the four versions of nFluxOS; ARCH,Debian,Slackware, and Ubuntu
all four are roughly based on "testing" or unstable versions
ARCH testing repos
Debian sid
Slackware -current
Ubuntu 10.10 soon to be upgraded

anyway, alot of the packages in the Slackware based version are either Slackware, SalixOS, SBopkg, Slacky. and homemade pkgs like nfluxbox
http://multidistro.com/downloads/Apps/slackpkgs.html

Now, i put out a MiniSC & MiniSCR (rescue) that are 178mb & 320mb respectively, the miniscr has Gslapt and many other Salix pkgs but it is based on -current
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/O ... 0734.shtml

The best way to install either is the manual-install method, which is easy
it does have a installer (nflux-installer) its console driven and only can install Lilo and doesn't really setup fstab right
the manual-install is in /usr/doc and outlines how to install almost any linux distro to hdd and set it up to boot
it's just mostly copy/paste commands into a terminal

but, theres many ways to kill a cat...
you could boot up one of the salix livecd's, remove all the packages you want
and then do the manual-install and it will copy the whole filesystem to wherever you want
you see, if you add/remove pkgs, then do the manual-install, it only copies the current ramdisk fs to hdd, so whatever changes you make will be retained
so, example you boot up the salixos lxde and remove all the pkgs you want then do the manual-install

you could also use the slackpkg template option
I have the template for the minisc, which is about 700-800mb on hdd
put the template in /etc/slackpkg/templates
and you just do "slackpkg install-template minisc"
however, as I said there are salixos/sbopkg, and homemade pkgs which wont get picked up
http://multidistro.com/NFLUXNEW/SQ4/103 ... c.template

oh wait
why dont you use liveclone to create a cd?
maybe rather involved having to remove so many packages though

best shot may be to install the MiniSCR, get rid of the extra packages and then run Gslapt and downgrade everything from -current to salixos' 13.1
then you would have a mini salixos
just edit the preferences/sources in Gslapt and change to the salixos repos
as they are there but unchecked,

EDIT: heres the newest manual-install I have
http://multidistro.com/manual-install

[gapan]

linus72, thanks for the pointers. Your Mini iso images seem interesting.

For what it's worth, pekwm is now in the repositories.

[caitlyn]

@gapan: Thanks for adding PekWM to the repos. By itself, in vanilla form, it isn't much, but it is a great WM to build a desktop on largely because of the ability to easily put multiple applications in a single tiled window as described before.

I took a look at the slackbuilds for the SalixOS repo and I must say that what you do with slackpkg looks entirely different than what sbbuilder produces. I would literally have to rebuild every package I've done, both 32- and 64-bit, in order to fit into the SalixOS family. Considering the work involved I am simply not going to do that. It seems SalixOS will have a derivative distro after all. Sorry...